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« on: November 09, 2017, 08:07:01 PM »

Anyone have any experience with this? It seems that some amount of feedback is inevitable with every approach that I have tried.

I have heard of running vocals to a small, distorted amp offstage and then mic-ing that into the mix...but that seems a bit impractical.

Apologies of this should go in the "microphones" thread.
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 11:17:41 PM »

For feedback in between vocals a noise gate might help

or just a mic with a switch on it
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 11:25:32 PM »

I highly recommend these microphones made by Crank Sturgeon. Absolutely filthy vocals with out any effects.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/550799302/barky-box-original-model-lofi-vocal

https://www.etsy.com/listing/126948538/town-mouth-report-vocal-microphone
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2017, 10:56:25 AM »

For feedback in between vocals a noise gate might help

or just a mic with a switch on it

Gate usually works unless stage sound is loud. Which it usually is. In such case, there might be barely difference between shouting into mic vs. overall sound pressure on stage, so adjusting fine line of noise-gate may be impossible.
On-off switch is usually easiest, but can also result shitty abrupt cuts.

Seen shows where switching microphone on, will result merely piercing feedback & explosion of efx mass, which cuts out in really "glitchy" way when artists switches mic off.

I think one way to approach is simply consider how much distortion one needs? All at max fuzz and metal-zone type will make vocals often flat and lame anyways. With using boost / drive / pre-amp type of pedals, one may get much better sound for industrial type of vocals and much less issues with feedback. With combination of drive and loud sound, vocals may sound ripping, and without problems with extensive feedback.

For full-on-Masonna screams, is another thing, I guess.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2017, 03:09:31 PM »

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Gate usually works unless stage sound is loud. Which it usually is. In such case, there might be barely difference between shouting into mic vs. overall sound pressure on stage, so adjusting fine line of noise-gate may be impossible.
Yeah very true.

some kind of foot-controlled volume pedal could be interesting rather than a switch but maybe fiddly to rig up if using XLR.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2017, 04:46:33 PM »

Thanks to all for the responses...there is a lot of useful information here.

I have been focusing on spoken (rather than shouted or screamed) vocals, and the distortion is meant to give it more of a distant, radio-like sound rather than to add any kind of aggression. I have been using a CB mic with an on/off button, but the blasts of feedback come through between even the slightest pause...and thats great in some instances, just not what I am going for.

I am going to experiment with a drive pedal and see what kind of results I get. I considered one of the Crank Sturgeon mics mentioned above or even a bitcrusher, but I would really like to not buy another piece of gear.
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2017, 08:55:11 PM »

I have been using a CB mic with an on/off button, but the blasts of feedback come through between even the slightest pause...and thats great in some instances, just not what I am going for.

Sounded great when I saw you in Toronto, for what it's worth.
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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2017, 09:15:16 PM »

I have been using a CB mic with an on/off button, but the blasts of feedback come through between even the slightest pause...and thats great in some instances, just not what I am going for.

Sounded great when I saw you in Toronto, for what it's worth.

Thanks! I really like that mic for my usual live material but I want to switch things up a bit.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2017, 01:16:58 PM »

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radio-like sound

Then you probably should try involving some graphic EQ and/or filters. Maybe even some subtle ring mod

There's an ibanez 'lo fi' pedal which is specifically intended for a radio-ish distortion and has a setting intended for vocal use
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2017, 03:24:03 PM »

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radio-like sound

Then you probably should try involving some graphic EQ and/or filters. Maybe even some subtle ring mod

There's an ibanez 'lo fi' pedal which is specifically intended for a radio-ish distortion and has a setting intended for vocal use

do you remember the name or serial number of this Ibanez pedal ?
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2017, 04:32:57 PM »

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radio-like sound

Then you probably should try involving some graphic EQ and/or filters. Maybe even some subtle ring mod

There's an ibanez 'lo fi' pedal which is specifically intended for a radio-ish distortion and has a setting intended for vocal use

do you remember the name or serial number of this Ibanez pedal ?

LF7 ?
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2017, 12:37:45 AM »

but I would really like to not buy another piece of gear.

mate they cost $10 compared to all these pedals folks are suggesting. sounds exactly like what you are asking for without any outboard gear.
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