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« Reply #3090 on: January 10, 2021, 12:09:12 PM »

Finally got around to watching Possessor, the uncut version. I was both impressed and a little bit let down. Visual were excellent, some of the best looking gore I have ever seen. The premise was really good & the plot itself was interesting. I really liked the ending, too. What let me down was the pacing, which was shit and the main character who despite being interesting and transgressive (secret assassin mother doesn't feel anything towards her family and just wants to kill and torture, and in the end kills her own family to be free of them. She felt guilty about who she was and what she wanted, and shed herself of that guilt) had zero charisma and zero character growth or character development, which in a character driven story is baffling. She just kind of exists in the backround and her victim almost feels like the main character, only we know next to nothing about him and he's also not very interesting. The movie is so fucking slow that Cronenberg could have easily put in some more plot if he'd wanted to. Now it's almost like Cronenberg didn't really know what to do with the themes he had and instead concentrated on gorgeous visuals. Or maybe he took the story for granted, i don't know. Anyway, a missed opportunity but still a very enjoyable movie. Flawed but good.
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« Reply #3091 on: January 10, 2021, 02:27:39 PM »

The Turin Horse

Finally watched my first Bela Tarr movie. And I think my last. As one of his shorter works (only 2.5 hours) I'd imagine it is one of the "easiest" as well. Beautiful b/w cinematography but this is super boring. I do like some slower movies like Tarkovsky's Stalker but I do not find anything interesting in this one. Dialog is super minimal except for a 5 minute (or is it 1, 2 or 10 minutes, I don't know, time loses its meaning with a movie like this) rant by a guy who ran out of alcohol. If you are into horse riding/feeding, boiling and eating potatoes, (un)dressing, and walking in the wind then you're probably gonna love this.

Thanks, great and interesting review. I think I loved the movie just for the reasons, you didn't like.
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« Reply #3092 on: January 10, 2021, 04:19:52 PM »

Finally got around to watching Possessor, the uncut version. [...] What let me down was the pacing [...] character development

Felt the same way, although I'm not sure if I watched the uncut version or not?

The Turin Horse

Finally watched my first Bela Tarr movie. And I think my last. As one of his shorter works (only 2.5 hours) I'd imagine it is one of the "easiest" as well. Beautiful b/w cinematography but this is super boring. I do like some slower movies like Tarkovsky's Stalker but I do not find anything interesting in this one. Dialog is super minimal except for a 5 minute (or is it 1, 2 or 10 minutes, I don't know, time loses its meaning with a movie like this) rant by a guy who ran out of alcohol. If you are into horse riding/feeding, boiling and eating potatoes, (un)dressing, and walking in the wind then you're probably gonna love this.

Thanks, great and interesting review. I think I loved the movie just for the reasons, you didn't like.


Yeah, I thought it was an amazing movie.


After managing to make it to nearly 365 movies watched last year, I've been taking a bit of a breather to read and do other things. Still managed to knock a few out though:

Thief (Michael Mann, 1981) - Held off on watching this for years, and glad I waited. Not perfect, but still very good.

Blood Simple (Joel Coen, 1984) - Been at least a decade since I'd first/last watched this. Dark and violent.

Once Upon a Time in the West (Sergio Leone, 1968) - Near perfect epitome of a western. Much more rewarding upon rewatch. There's a nice Morricone score, but I think his work for The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is still my favourite.

The Wild Bunch (Sam Peckinpah, 1969) - Hail Bloody Sam.

Words of Advice: William S. Burroughs on the Road (Lars Movi, Steen Møller Rasmussen, 2007) - Seems like a school project more than a documentary with any sort of budget or depth. Non essential. Though, if more/full footage exists of the memorial Burroughs held for Allen Ginsberg in his backyard, with Burroughs reading Howl, I would like to see it.

Ballad of AJ Weberman (James Bluemel, Oliver Ralfe, 2006) - Documentary about the Bob Dylan-obsessive / garbage picker AJ Weberman. In the 70s he picked through Dylan's garbage to try and figure out what he perceived to be the hidden messages in his songs, and eventually would be paid by magazines to dig through garbage of other celebrities (he even got Nixon's trash). Worth it just to see the crazy people in his life that all seem way more out there than him (and he's out there). It's unreal.
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« Reply #3093 on: January 11, 2021, 08:34:48 AM »

Finally got around to watching Possessor, the uncut version.
I think there's generally some misunderstandings surrounding the title of the movie. From what I've read the Possessor Uncut is just an alternative title. There's only one version...
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« Reply #3094 on: January 11, 2021, 03:21:18 PM »

Finally got around to watching Possessor, the uncut version.
I think there's generally some misunderstandings surrounding the title of the movie. From what I've read the Possessor Uncut is just an alternative title. There's only one version...

Ha, that's a silly marketing strategy.
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« Reply #3095 on: January 18, 2021, 07:37:23 AM »

I am on a mission to watch as much as i can from this list : https://www.discogs.com/Various-Criminalia/release/1208141

This night was The Teenage Prostitution Racket (1975) . Italian -ofcource- . When a movie starts with a grandma and her teen grandaughter hitchiking, entering in a van, and the grandma asks the driver if he wants a 'quick' with the girl, well , my expectations skyrocketed. Movie doesnt have a plot, it's parallel stories of teenagers going into prostitution. Nothing really good, but interesting to watch anticipating what's next, cause it has its moments of ... perversion. Couple doing sex with pregnant teen. Pervert washes his shoe in a bidet filled up with ... brown water. Then take a piece of bread, dippin it into that water, eat it and give to the girl too ! Etc. - Nice girls.
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« Reply #3096 on: January 18, 2021, 06:58:03 PM »

Black Legion

Interesting old movie about a midwestern Klan offshoot with Humphrey Bogart in one of his first starring roles.
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« Reply #3097 on: January 27, 2021, 04:45:57 PM »

A couple weekends ago I was able to do a double billing of Edge of Tomorrow [aka Live Die Repeat] and Starship Troopers and I feel compelled to offer my stale thoughts.

Edge of Tomorrow [aka Live Die Repeat] - dir. Doug Liman, 2014 - my 3rd viewing and maybe the one I enjoyed most? I saw this one in theaters when it was released because it was described as Starship Troopers meets Groundhog Day and that's about as good of a description as you can get. Sounded fun but I was taken completely by surprise by how good it was! It's the slightest bummer that it's pg-13 as there's no gore, but honestly gore would be out of synch with the visual style of the movie, so it's not really a problem. I was surprised then as I am now how much I liked Tom Cruise in this part, considering I typically flee from any movie he's in post Eyes Wide Shut. I'm waiting for Emily Blunt to do another movie where she's half as badass... But the whole premise and execution of the movie is fun as hell, and for an action movie that nears 2 hours, it doesn't drag at all. As far as modern action movies go this is at the tippy-top for me.

Starship Troopers - dir. Paul Verhoeven, 1997 - I'm sure a big part of why I like Edge of Tomorrow so much is that it constantly reminds me of Starship Troopers. This fucking movie, I must have seen it 40-50 times. When I was a kid there was a year or two where I rented it nearly every weekend from Blockbuster. I just never tire of seeing handsome people kill bug aliens, all while drenched in smirking satire. And over-the-top gore! Can't get enough of that Verhoeven style. The "news" segments in this film do so much to elevate from awesome to indisputable classic. The one down side to seeing it so many times is that as soon as it starts I can close my eyes and basically run through the whole movie in my head. Still, like so much comfort food, I never tire of it.

If you haven't seen either of these movies and like having fun, I recommend them both. If you're too cool for Starship Troopers you may want to ignore all of my movie reviews.

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« Reply #3098 on: January 27, 2021, 11:44:17 PM »


Starship Troopers - dir. Paul Verhoeven, 1997 - I'm sure a big part of why I like Edge of Tomorrow so much is that it constantly reminds me of Starship Troopers. This fucking movie, I must have seen it 40-50 times. When I was a kid there was a year or two where I rented it nearly every weekend from Blockbuster. I just never tire of seeing handsome people kill bug aliens, all while drenched in smirking satire. And over-the-top gore! Can't get enough of that Verhoeven style. The "news" segments in this film do so much to elevate from awesome to indisputable classic. The one down side to seeing it so many times is that as soon as it starts I can close my eyes and basically run through the whole movie in my head. Still, like so much comfort food, I never tire of it.

If you haven't seen either of these movies and like having fun, I recommend them both. If you're too cool for Starship Troopers you may want to ignore all of my movie reviews.


I was obsessed with that film as a kid. I'll have to dig it out. Still got the VHS knocking around somewhere.

Nuke 'em Rico!

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« Reply #3099 on: January 28, 2021, 12:47:30 AM »

me and a friend went to see starship troopers in the theater when it came out and we both hated it. we didn't get at all that it was supposed to be a satire we just thought it was stupid. joke was on us, i guess we were too dumb for starship troopers
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« Reply #3100 on: January 28, 2021, 12:57:52 AM »

Amazing movie.
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« Reply #3101 on: January 30, 2021, 12:08:38 AM »

me and a friend went to see starship troopers in the theater when it came out and we both hated it. we didn't get at all that it was supposed to be a satire we just thought it was stupid. joke was on us, i guess we were too dumb for starship troopers

I remember watching it as a kid and being totally blown away by how gory it was. I hadn’t yet really been exposed to anything like that. Certainly not the horror/exploitation/gore stuff that I watch nowadays. Also didn’t pick up on any of the satire being that I was in middle school. I do think I realized it was a bit ridiculous and over the top at the time, but the gore overshadowed that. Had a friend re-watch it recently and I think I may have to do the same now. I know I owned it on VHS at some point but I think I got rid of it last time I whittled the VHS collection down to more essential stuff.

Been thoroughly uninterested in watching anything new lately, which is rare. Decided to rewatch all seasons  of True Detective. Season one is obviously classic. Very few dispute that. Season two, however, I stand behind firmly. I was dismissive the first time I watched it, but after a second viewing it is strong as fuck. The only arguments against it are made by holding it up to the first season. Looked at on its own I think it’s brilliant. I watched season three when it came out, but haven’t made it to re-watching it yet. I was a fan upon the initial viewing, and I welcome the different approaches of each season. I don’t need to relive the same storylines over and over. It is similar to the newest season of Twin Peaks. I’m happy that it went down whatever bizarre path it did. I don’t need a recreation of its glory days. They can’t be recreated. Would feel cheap. Obviously one could go into ideas surrounding the fact that perhaps that was Lynch’s message (if he had any), but I’m digressing enough.

May watch Valhalla Rising tonight. Refn is hit and miss with me. When it works it’s amazing and when it doesn’t, his work is pretty terrible. We’ll see.
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« Reply #3102 on: January 30, 2021, 02:32:38 AM »

May watch Valhalla Rising tonight. Refn is hit and miss with me. When it works it’s amazing and when it doesn’t, his work is pretty terrible. We’ll see.

Valhalla Rising is goat. I'd be curious to know which ones of his you don't like.
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« Reply #3103 on: January 30, 2021, 03:49:36 AM »

May watch Valhalla Rising tonight. Refn is hit and miss with me. When it works it’s amazing and when it doesn’t, his work is pretty terrible. We’ll see.

Valhalla Rising is goat. I'd be curious to know which ones of his you don't like.

I may have exaggerated slightly. Really just Only God Forgives. I didn’t even actually finish it. I plan to give it another shot if for no other reason than to have a more informed opinion, but I really just hated it. I also haven’t seen Drive since it came out, so I wonder how it holds up. Pusher Trilogy is pretty good. Haven’t seen the third one, but enjoyed the first two. I liked Neon Demon a lot, and as I’ve said before in this thread I thought Too Old To Die Young was pretty much perfect.
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« Reply #3104 on: February 11, 2021, 10:25:46 PM »

Finally got around to watching Possessor, the uncut version.
I think there's generally some misunderstandings surrounding the title of the movie. From what I've read the Possessor Uncut is just an alternative title. There's only one version...

I faintly recall reading that the US cinema version had some of the worst gore cut. Most likely it was done the be able to screen the film to a larger audience.  
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