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« on: October 08, 2010, 08:32:33 PM »


Like previously mentioned Johnny Kniga title äärimmäisiä minuuksia book, this was something I heard of while driving in car. There was interview with authors, and then said book is out in couple days. I went to Suomalainen Kirjakauppa bookstore and for my horror, this mere 250 page paperback was 28,50€ ! Fucking hell? It should come with some Seppo Lehto dvd to justify price like this. Anyways, too late to back down, so bought it, and read it.
Obviously this is nothing for foreigners, since it's all in Finnish and no visual offerings. It's a book about Finnish extremist thinking of current day. Or lets say most things where history doesn't go further than c. 15 years. National Socialists, Stalinists, Antifascist, Animal Liberation, Islamic party, religious extremists - mainly the luther society or whatever it should be called. Reformed fraction of regular lutherian church where they practice the traditional policy of no homos, no female priests etc. Also zionists, extremist tendencies within regular political parties ranging from perussuomalaiset to kokoomus, sdp, kristilliset and whatever. Something about NRA Finland and other gun enthusiasts. Extra chapter about Sanoma corporation, which is target of hatred of all the extremists.
Book does cover quite decent amount of various different views. The common thing is, that this book is FAR FAR AWAY from some neutral study. It's nothing between the lines, but it is blatant shit throwing in most of cases. Of course, you could say that "potut vittuina" the good payback method. And if you're dealing with extremist, you'll deal with them using their own methods. But in end, one starts to wonder, how good method is the kind of name calling, underlining every thought as "idiotic", "senseless" etc. It gives impression of underestimating the reader. As if one reading something from Johan Bäckman or such russophile characters wouldn't understand this is not the talk of 100% sane person? Or that some re-printed Sniper lyrics on book may not represent poetry in nobel prize quality! hahah!
Anyways, if someone has few extra euros in pockets, and wants to get small scratch on the surface, this could be it. Sadly it is really that. Scratch on the surface. From right wing they do cover things like perussuomalaiset and patriootti.com folks, yet the modern day cult comedian's a'la Seppo Lehto or such are left without being mentioned. They write a bit about die hard enviromentalists, and brief obligatory Linkola piece, but leaves impression they hardly went deeper to see what else, beyond the obvious.


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« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2010, 08:29:45 AM »

I guess this is one of these ordered works to cut off wings from all extremists as fast as possible. It can be seen all over the media nowdays.
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« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2010, 08:35:00 AM »

It is written by some ex-punks. It is revealed in book in form, that back in the day in Lahti, they were kicked out from Animalia demonstration due "punks ruin reputation of animal rights movement", hehe...  I do recall the times when one of Lahti Animalia girls was promoting animal vegan food. She had two HUGE dogs, which obviously are carnivores. There was some righteous animal food company who offered vegan alternative for your beasts. What a bizarro world.
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« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2010, 09:08:38 AM »

But lets say, that book is also good proof of why extremism is relevant. Why issues like the treatment of pigs needed some masked commandos take video footage and expose it. Why there needed to be nazis and die hard racists to get mainstream parties to modify their policy and so on. When nobody aknowledge the problems of loose immigration and most generous free money given (like state of finland being only country in world paying to import family & relatives of each refugee who claims he has them somewhere. Which means one guy can get even 15 other people (wife, children, foster children, grandparents,..), imported here free of charge.) and creation of problem gettoes etc. when suddenly this mere online bitching is channeled into relevant political force, suddenly almost every political party had to make a change. Some modify their stand slightly. Some do nearly U turn. And these were things what wouldn't have been done if nobody had reacted as they have.

One can ask should the wings of extremist be cut off? I think not, but that extremist should aknowledge their actual role.
I think it is theoretically interesting scenario, what would happen if instead of "common people", you'd let the die hard fanatics to rule. I could quite easily admit, that I may not be balanced enough to decide on social matters in scale of state. I simply don't even know how the infrastructure of society works, although I think this is case of most people in politics.

One can look examples like Kambodia, where decent fraction of population get erased in process of getting rid of intellectuals, city-life etc. I could imagine finland, after all the highly educated, intellectual elite and burgeous pigs are just ash in the sky, and the "regular" hessburger fed people scattered around into agricultural villages. Perhaps no negroes of jews in sight, yet not much else either, than fields last seen with decent crops back in 80's. Regular life may be pointless savage life, even if you could carry mighty banners of victory. This is the relevant topic, what any extremists should consider. The amusing patriootti.com for example, which is not THAT highly valued even among most of extremist right. Their ideas are so vague, so pointless, and in the end, based on such a pure illusions. Like why the fuck fight against "multiculturalism" and then agitate towards mighty nordic national socialist state consisting Finland, Sweden and Norway, under one führer? Would any swede take commands from some jävla finne führer? Or would we bow down in front of some whale eating oil barons? hehe.. What are the common cultural characters we should unite with? How this goal could be achieved, and how you arrange idea what may have support of 0,0000001% support or less in the population, to become effective? In situation where organisation refuses to define any actual political program. Just talk about it in level of "fight must go on!!" & "never surrender!!". It is like forming organisation with goal to invade mars. While your only skill is 2 finger typing system on laptop and best achievement to open free blog.

Aknowledging the role of misfits of society, doing best to throw rocks into the machine seems much more fruitful. If you really don't have potential to be anything more than .. for example street thug. In deed, there would need to be führer giving commands to wannabe führers. Explaining them what could and what should be done if aiming for actual results.
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« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2010, 04:12:03 PM »

did I read that the most famous "diarrea of the mouth blogger" of them all jypä hallaaho is running for eduskunta in the next elections. I might vote for him just to stink up the place.
I dont think perussuomalaiset( the finnish equivalent for svenskademokraterna) can do more than throw rocks from inside the system but its the closest thing to making some waves in the democratic way.

the part of the brain that is fanatic about a cause is likely the same place religion used to live before god died so the extremists are not going to realize their actual role but I agree that if you would let these guys run things it might not be a glowing successtory.

in my opinion theres going to be some intresting times ahead- some guy, I forget the fancy title, was talking about the % of old people vs younger work force in the coming 20-30 years. its going to be pretty weird when the majority of people are retired and us youngsters are expected to take care of them.

my radical idea is that the seniors could be used as biofuel or guinneapigs in medical labs to pay for their heartmedicine etc. though, in rural areas as well as in cities there will be an abundance of houses to buy and rent because its hard to shovel snow when your bones are brittle and have to wear diapers.
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2010, 02:06:54 PM »


in my opinion theres going to be some intresting times ahead- some guy, I forget the fancy title, was talking about the % of old people vs younger work force in the coming 20-30 years. its going to be pretty weird when the majority of people are retired and us youngsters are expected to take care of them.



Don't worry. Jykä Katainen and Astrid Thors will make sure, that there will be thousands of somalian immigrants (not)taking care of our elders. :)
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2010, 07:58:10 AM »

Interesting will surely be ahead, this country is slowly flushing itself down the toilet as we speak.

If fanatics would get the run the government, indeed it would be chaotic mess. I guess some rational, cold and analyctic leaders are good. Then again, aren't we all slowly preparing for guerilla war on streets, 3rd world war, nuclear fallout and all that good stuff...
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