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RyanWreck

Jesus. Silicon implants on balls doesn't make much sense to me.

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The men who believe porn is wrong


          o Kira Cochrane
          o guardian.co.uk, Monday 25 October 2010 21.00 BST
          o Article history

porn The Anti-Porn Men project is grounded in feminist principles. Photograph: Oleksiy Maksymenko / Alamy

It was in the cerebral setting of a university library that Matt McCormack Evans noticed how pornography was shaping his life. He was watching a female librarian stack books on shelves, stretching for the highest recess, when it occurred to him he "should look up some librarian-themed porn that evening," he says. "I remember making that mental note, and then catching myself."

McCormack Evans was about 20 at the time, and he had been using pornography regularly for a year or so, since starting university and having private access to a computer. At first, he didn't think this was a problem. It was something he did alone; no one had to know. The habit need never bleed beyond his student bedroom. Then he realised his male peers were using porn too, openly, frequently – almost celebrating it – and it started to make him feel uncomfortable.

He had glimpses of how it might influence their lives. There was the librarian moment; a flash of how porn might shift the way he responded to women in the real world. There was the moment he noticed a male friend struggling not to ask the stupid, inappropriate question about oral sex that had occurred to him when a female friend mentioned her sore throat.

McCormack Evans, a thoughtful, articulate young Londoner, was a philosophy student at Hull university, and he had never been part of a particularly laddish crowd, but he noticed that the "relatively well-rounded young men" he knew were changing. "They came to uni, got their first computer, were alone a lot, and everyone became much more laddish. It got to the point where someone groped a woman's bum in a club, and I completely flipped out."

McCormack Evans, now 22, has just co-founded an online project to get men talking about their use of porn. Other such projects have often come from a religious, conservative standpoint, but the Anti-Porn Men Project is grounded in feminist principles, in the notion that pornography is an important social issue, and has a bearing on violence perpetrated against women and wider inequalities. There are, so far, 10 other people who will be writing on the site, and the idea is to create a community, he says, "where people can share their experiences and problems, and find an alternative voice".

In setting up the site, McCormack Evans is one of the few men worldwide to publicly discuss pornography from a feminist perspective – positive about sex itself, open to the idea of people engaging in the widest range of consensual sex acts, but concerned about the industrialisation of sex and where this leads.

Perhaps the most prominent is Robert Jensen, a professor of journalism at the University of Texas at Austin, who in 2007 published the devastating book Getting Off: Pornography and the End of Masculinity. In this, he writes about the porn series Slut Bus, in which men drive around in a minivan with a video camera, ask a woman if she wants a ride, offer her money to have sex on camera – the woman always says yes – and then, when the deed is done and she leaves the van and reaches for the money, they drive off, "leaving her on the side of the road looking foolish . . . There are men who buy videos with that simple message: women are for sex," writes Jensen. "Women can be bought for sex. But in the end, women are not even worth paying for sex. They don't even deserve to be bought. They just deserve to be left on the side of the road, with post-adolescent boys laughing as they drive away."

Slut Bus also featured in the 2008 book Guyland, in which gender-studies scholar Michael Kimmel maps the social world of the 16- to 26-year-old US male. He talks to young men about such websites and finds that "about half had heard of them and visited them. They thought they were 'funny', 'silly', or 'stupid' but also 'kind of cool'." Later he writes that although the websites openly refer to their use of "models" in the films, "none of the guys I spoke with thought these were staged events; instead, they saw them as documentaries, as reasonable depictions of reality. And that's the problem. Because what this tells us is that the guys who watch these videos actually believe that women will have sex with strangers for money, even if they're not desperate."

Kimmel has been writing and lecturing on the subject of pornography for two decades: in 1990, he edited the anthology Men Confront Pornography. Back then, he tells me, a significant percentage of his undergraduate students "well over half the women, had never seen pornography, didn't really know what it was about. Now, they all know . . . What also strikes me is that young men seem utterly unapologetic about their porn use. It's like it's so ubiquitous – what's the problem? And they expect a similarly casual approach from their female friends."

Kimmel remains open-minded about pornography – what's needed is a much broader conversation about it, he says – but the picture he paints in Guyland is nonetheless troubling. "Pornotopia is the place where [young men] can get even," he writes, "where women get what they 'deserve' and the guys never have to be tested, or face rejection. And so the pornographic universe becomes a place of homosocial solace, a refuge from the harsh reality of a more gender equitable world than has ever existed. It's about anger at the loss of privilege – and an effort to restore men's unchallenged authority. And, it turns out, that anger is worse among younger men."

This is especially disturbing when you consider the studies that have shown that young men are often keen consumers of pornography (in a 2007 Swedish study, for instance, 92% of young men and 57% of young women aged between 15 and 18 had watched a porn film). It's also disturbing when you consider the amount of material available. It has been suggested that the porn industry is in trouble, that it's facing the problem of how to make money when there is so much free material around – and when so many people are releasing their own amateur footage. But there is no doubt the business is still a sizeable force. As Gail Dines writes in her book Pornland, published earlier this year, the worth of the global industry was estimated at $96bn (£61bn) in 2006, more than 13,000 films are released annually, and "there are 420m internet porn pages, 4.2m porn websites and 68m search engine requests for porn daily".

Michael Flood, an Australian sociologist at the University of Wollongong, is founding editor of the pro-feminist website XY and has done analyses of young people's exposure to pornography. He says there is direct data on an increase in exposure over the last decade, "and there are other obvious reasons to suspect this, including increases in access to the internet and in the devices one can use to look at porn – internet-enabled mobile phones, in particular."

Mention porn to people who came of age in the 60s and 70s, and it's often a byword for big-bushed centrefolds or videos of awkward encounters with unusually attentive plumbers. But more recently, porn "features" – films that nod to a plot – have been joined by "gonzo" material, which only depicts sex. Many of the most popular films have become harder and angrier, while focusing on a range of acts which, as McCormack Evans says, "have never really existed outside the porn industry".

Jensen started analysing pornography 15 years ago and says: "If you had told me then that there would be a common genre where a woman was penetrated by three men at once, I would have said, 'Oh, come on'. But I've now seen things I don't think even Andrea Dworkin could have imagined." Even ardent fans have acknowledged modern porn's brutal trajectory. In 1998, the pro-porn campaigner and performer Nina Hartley admitted "you're seeing more of these videos of women getting dragged on their faces, and spit [sic] on, and having their heads dunked in the toilet."

While an enormous amount has been written about how pornography affects women – particularly the terrible way in which they are sometimes treated within the industry – less has been written about how it affects men, which seems odd given that, as McCormack Evans says, pornography is a product predominantly "made by men, marketed by men, and consumed by a massive male majority".

One obvious problem for many porn users is the conflict between their stated belief in equality and respect for women, and the material they're watching in private. McCormack Evans says he used to exist in a "kind of double consciousness. For that half hour when I was watching porn I thought, 'This is separate from my life, it won't affect how I view the world.' But then I realised it did."

Jensen says he hears about this disjuncture "all the time. Men will say, I know the images I'm watching are in direct contradiction to my own stated values, but I just can't stop". McCormack Evans says porn-watchers can quickly descend into self-hatred. "They're sitting there afterwards, and there's an image left on the screen, and they look at themselves and think, 'I'm disgusting' . . . Then their daughter comes in, or their wife, or their girlfriend, and they've just been to Pilates, and the next day they start looking up Pilates porn, or something crazy like that, and they feel even worse. It can become quite self-destructive."

It can also leave porn consumers with sexual scripts and images they can't forget, and can't resist calling to mind during sex. Dines reflects this in Pornland, in her encounter with "Dan", who is worried about his sexual performance with women, and tells her: "I can't get the pictures of anal sex out of my head when having sex, and I am not really focusing on the girl but on the last anal scene I watched . . . I started looking at porn before I had sex, so porn is pretty much how I learned about sex."

Dan isn't the only young man who started viewing pornography long before he had any sexual experience – and he's also not unusual in finding it difficult to shake its influence. Dr Andrew Durham, a social worker who counsels children who have problems with their sexual behaviour, says he has encountered children as young as eight "who have got into a mess as a result of ideas from watching pornography. At that age, what they see is almost an endorsement of the behaviour, because they're watching images of adults [authority figures] doing something – although the watching tends to happen in secret, so they know it's wrong as well. But it's often a case at that age of see it, do it."

Durham isn't a pro-feminist writer or campaigner himself, but what he has learned seems to reflect the same views. "Pornography reinforces the wider media-led messages about the roles of men and women," he says, "and can also reinforce a particular attitude towards sex, an attitude that is devoid of trust, caring, and, in the worst cases, consent . . . They're learning that sex is what men and boys do to – rather than with – their partners."

Once young men reach maturity, their ability to negotiate what they're seeing will have developed, but Flood suggests some might still find their porn use "crippling, in the sense of being routinely frustrated that the sex they end up having doesn't look anything like porn. Of course, some young men will find partners who are keen participants in the practices found in pornography but others won't, so it's complicated."

I ask Flood whether he thinks pornography undermines intimacy between men and women. "I do," he says, "partly because pornography scripts are really not very much about intimacy; they're certainly not about the complex negotiations of desire that sex can often involve . . . Having said that, I know that for some couples sharing porn, or indeed producing porn, is part and parcel of their intimacy, and I think there are ways in which that can be ethical. But I think it's rare."

The anti-sexist educator and activist Jackson Katz, author of the 2006 book The Macho Paradox, suggests the porn industry has an obvious interest in undermining intimacy between men and women – if couples were to find sexual fulfillment together, the market would plummet. And this opposition to intimacy, says Jensen, helps explain why porn has become so cruel, degrading and humiliating – why, to quote Martin Amis, it has become "a parody of love" addressing itself "to love's opposites, which are hate and death".

The truth is, says Jensen, that because pornography consists of the same repetitive sexual acts, it needs some form of emotional content to succeed commercially. It's that which staves off the boredom. "Now, if pornography went towards emotion that was about mutuality, respect and egalitarian relationships," says Jensen, "then men wouldn't buy it, because they're using porn to avoid those aspects of sexuality. So the route to maximising market share involves including emotions that men are more willing to accept in a commercial sex relationship – anger, aggression and domination."

I ask whether he thinks the content of pornography could actually get worse. There are several ways the porn industry could go further, he says, but these might prove the final lines that the culture won't allow it to cross. One is the use of children. At the moment, many popular porn videos include young women of legal age dressed as schoolgirls, "so the line is already blurred," says Jensen, "but I think the routine use of obviously minor children in pornography is one place it could go . . . The other is overt violence – I mean guns, knives and fists. In terms of fetishism, pornography has already explored everything you could imagine that reinforces the domination/subordination dynamic. So I don't know. Overt racism? But how could it get more overt than it already is?"

One of the weirdest aspects of porn is that "it's never really satisfying," says McCormack Evans. "It doesn't meet men's sexual needs. It doesn't meet anyone's sexual needs." If porn doesn't even fulfil that basic promise, why aren't more people questioning it?

Jensen believes "the culture doesn't want to look at it. A lot of it simply has to do with the number of liberal-left men who use porn themselves and don't want to engage in self-critique . . . And when it comes to heterosexual women: do you really want to know what your boyfriend or husband is using? If your husband is masturbating to images of women being degraded, can you really believe it when he says, 'Oh, I don't think of you that way?'. Now that would be naive."

There's one other obvious problem. "It's all very well to say, 'Don't people realise what this is doing in the long-term?'" says Jensen. "But when you're in front of your computer, with – if I may be graphic – your penis in your hand, and you can reach orgasm within three minutes, how much are you really thinking about the long-term?"
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Pleased to see they allowed my comment.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/40444.html
This is what the national broadcaster in my country has decided is an important enough issue to spend tax money paying someone to write about.
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FreakAnimalFinland

efukt has some good stuff in it. Infamous broken jar in rectum and so on.
Guy has serious obsession on prolapsed anuses.
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I didn't find any broken jar! Got a link? Yeah, tons of stuff on that site. Some vid's with pretty much rape- forcing anal. Very fine line there, I think. Bleeding assholes. I'd never seen women prolapse. That use to be just fags.  REALLY disgusting. There's one vid of a Japanese woman wrestling around w/a guy, she gives him a brutal kick to the throat then to the balls. You can hear the SLAP! on both blows. Title is something with MMA in it. I guess it was something w/the guy wanting to be beaten up.

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kettu

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Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 02, 2010, 08:28:15 AM
efukt has some good stuff in it. Infamous broken jar in rectum and so on.
Guy has serious obsession on prolapsed anuses.

some lady pushed out her thing there  and its not just a little rosebud but closer to a foot long vase of redness!

speaking of weird assplay, I saw a show about an ocd woman who had issues with cleanliness. you see where this is going and think enemas, no big deal. No enemas for this bitch,she used toothbrushes etc and never stopped the task until there was blood. they didnt show action but some upright  angle with sounds of tinkering with her stinkhole. they might have shown her sweaty face.

edit: the clip is also available at the site. should have guessed.

FreakAnimalFinland

I guess it was year or couple years ago when the man with glass jar surfaced online?
I recall getting link, checking it out while drinking of morning coffee.
It's brutal. Perhaps not shocking, but just plain stupid extreme clip. Watching out of the window to landscape and thinking with all the things in the world, I'm here watching some dude with broken glass up his rectum.
hah..
Well, of course I had to watch it again, show to my girlfriend and couple of friends. And the more you saw it, the more you saw the humor in it. Of course it was brutal, but most of all, it was just the dark comedy of the modern times.
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It's strange to see how desensitized people became with the rise of the internet. Even back in like '99 when I would show people VHS videos of real deaths, abortions, etc they would freak out, now everyone wants to see how strong their stomach is. 4chan is filled with KP, there are about a million shocksites and shock "meme's" floating around and it is nothing to a lot of people, "BME Pain Olympics", etc. it's just strange.

bitewerksMTB

"Watching out of the window to landscape and thinking with all the things in the world, I'm here watching some dude with broken glass up his rectum."

I had the same thought. I didn't listen to the audio & didn't want to re-watch it. It is brutal. Same goes for all these women prolapsing (Who's going to name a PE project PROLAPSE?!?). Just think of all the people going through life never knowing there are people shoving large objects up their asses until the lining falls out. Lucky bastards.

There's a choking vid on efukt that's pretty good: guy is on his back w/girl on top geting assfucked, his arms are around her neck like a chokehold. He chokes her unconscious at least 4 times.

tiny_tove

Spent last three days in a coma on the sofa due to a very strong cold.

I was browsing an old harddisk for old wertham files and found over 200 GB of documentaries, 30% sex related, between dull and interesting.

"Gay sex in the 70's" best gay themed doc I have watched in a long time. If you enjoyed the book/movie Cruising it is all there, although less leather/bdsm inclined, but the whole cruising/predatory thing is all there. Impressive part shot woth arty approach on the meatmarket, a dagnerous place where fags met to do their business on the sea, thousand of people romping in every corner, Some died falling in the sea.
The first part of this doc is a must.


"Sex under glass" - a small interview to a peep show girl in Soho. Apparently working in a place I have been (the same where the "Irina Palm" movie  was shot, where a dear aquaintance of mine worked as "emtry girl").

" 101 Sex accidents" (not sure about the title now, as said I was in a coma), basically the description of some of the funny stuff shown in efukt, with a comedy like approach, but featuring gruesome pictures.

"Sad to be gay", not really sex realted but as hilarious as the title.

more in the next days
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"Kids hooked on porn" . Always impressive , never get tired to watch this.
Boys obsessed with internet porn, make porn even more interesting than it already is.
One of the guys looks like a total perv on his road to boradmoor.
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Porn stars hunted by police in Sri Lanka

Police hope to identify 83 actors in initiative launched because of concerns about children watching films

   
    * Jason Burke in Delhi
    * guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 9 November 2010 21.02 GMT
    * Article history

Police in Sri Lanka As well as the porn stars intiative, police in Sri Lanka have also cracked down on 'moral crimes' in the country. Photograph: Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/Reuters

Sri Lankan police have launched a campaign to trace more than 80 local people who have appeared in pornographic films by printing their pictures in newspapers.

Earlier this week more than three dozen porn actors were pictured in a full-page advertisement in one local newspaper. Police plan to publish images, taken from the films, of around 50 more in the coming days. The mug shots have been obtained by a special police squad viewing films "round the clock", officers said.

Of the 83 actors police hope to identify, three are men, said Superintendent Prishantha Jayakody, a police spokesman. He said police had requested permission from a magistrate for the new initiative because they had become increasingly concerned by the phenomenon of schoolchildren downloading and exchanging clips of locally made pornographic films on their mobile phones.

"These [film] actors are breaking the law and we will identify them with the help of the public and bring them to justice," Jayakody said. "We will keep going until we have got them all."

The actors risk six months' imprisonment and a fine.

Other initiatives have also seen Sri Lankan police cracking down on so-called "moral crimes". In June police in Colombo, the biggest city, launched a campaign against "indecent" advertising on film billboards and posters in Colombo. The initiative was the idea of the Police's Bureau for the Prevention of Abuse of Children and Women.

Officers from the bureau told the BBC at the time that the move had been prompted by the sense that the younger generation of Sri Lankans were disrespectful to women whom modern culture treated as commodities.

This year has also seen hundreds of young couples arrested in Sri Lanka for alleged indecent behaviour.

Colombo-based analyst Dr Paikiasothy Saravanamuttu said such crackdowns were "periodic events". "This is not at all a part of a fundamentalist trend. Sri Lanka is a very tolerant place. There is no religious basis for that in our religious traditions," he said.

A majority of Sri Lankans follow Buddhist teachings, though there are substantial Hindu and smaller Muslim and Christian minorities. However Savaranamuttu said that with the end of the 25-year civil war 18 months ago there was a "certain relaxation" in the island nation as tight security was dismantled, the threat of violence diminished and the economy took off.

"There is more openness and consumerism and it is about balancing these things with a Buddhist culture so it does not get out of hand. If you aspire to bring in a million tourists in the country however there are going to be changes," Savaranamuttu said.

The adverts featuring the porn actors, many of whom appear to be teenagers according to police, have been controversial. Several newspapers have refused to print them despite court orders to do so arguing that they breached the right to privacy of those pictured. Anti-prostitution campaigners and human rights lawyers have also objected, raising the possibility that many of those featured in the posters might be coerced, under-age or both.

"There are huge problems with pornography, child prostitution, trafficking but you have to respond to them in a sensible, measured and sober way. This is a kneejerk reaction to the problem," said civil rights lawyer Rohan Edrisinha.

Recent crackdowns by police, critics note, have been focused on the burgeoning local pornography business and have left the international porn websites almost untouched. Some 300 local websites were shut down earlier in the year. Many featured very cheap films produced on mobile phones. Some footage was believed to have been shot without the knowledge of the subjects. However police respond that those who starred in the local films "acted completely against our laws and are therefore subject to punishment accordingly".
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www.efukt.com has a video of a little gimpy woman along with her site for gimp models.