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« Reply #255 on: December 17, 2010, 06:04:33 PM »

ahaha, yeah. I don't like teenagers. I dont' remember Bully either.

Grabbed a torrent for WHITE ROSE CAMPUS: ...THEN EVERYBODY GETS RAPED! Going to watch it with RAPE: 13th HOUR as a dbl feature.
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« Reply #256 on: December 27, 2010, 02:15:51 PM »

ROMANZO CRIMINALE TV series
The best thing coming our from Italy since the 80s. Sex/Violence/Crime. Inspired by Rome's fiercest criminal gang, turns out as the best piece of fiction I have seen in a long time. Everything is perfect. Unfamous actors, great story, fantastic filming, brilliant soundtrack.
Believe the hype.
There is a movie with a similar title/theme, it is good but not as good as this.
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« Reply #257 on: January 03, 2011, 01:51:32 AM »

Been watching a bit of Aki Kaurismaki after getting two box sets for Xmas. I really like the dry humour.
Also watching The Andrzej Wajda War Trilogy and re watching the Jodorowsky box set.
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« Reply #258 on: January 07, 2011, 10:08:38 AM »

finally picked up the criterion THE NIGHT PORTER recently and revisited it after around 15 years(!).
glad i did... forgot how absolutely stunning the film (and charlotte rampling) is.
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« Reply #259 on: January 07, 2011, 06:05:45 PM »

Recently revisited The Night Porter as well, still holds up. Noticed a Swedish dvd-edition of this available for cheap now, might pick it up just for the cover alone, would be a nice companion to the Criterion release.
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« Reply #260 on: January 10, 2011, 11:14:05 AM »

Have had scandinavian release of that DVD sitting on shelves for ages. Should watch it.

Many people have been talking about Serbian film, how brutal and over the top it is. And seeing if AFTER all the celebration and all the criticism, was not perhaps the best. Since it has already set up so high expectations.
I wrote in Finnish about it in other forum where was some discussion about it, but maybe worth to translate some thoughts...

Years ago, when brutal and dark movies were hard to find, you had to collect fanzines and check out ads for VHS traders and get the 5th generation rubbish just to appreciate some pretty regular gore action. I remember, that in those days when Nekromantic started to spread around the "scene", it got pretty similar feedback as Serbian Film? Some were glorifying that finally movies has gone so far, where nobody can top it. And some were thinking that this is so senseless and blunt shit, that we're clearly passed the line of any moral decency. At the same time, magazines that were in each issue reporting about how many seconds of gore is missing from which version = how many seconds/minutes of movie is cut by cencors in which version, had articles about how disgusting the "scene" has become, when there are actually collectors who's interest isn't merely gore&horror and little nudity within, but there circulates compilations of extreme pornography, autopsy videos, suicide/execution footage etc. And they had to put some moral stand, and oppose it.

Nekromantic, has obviously very artistic drive. Uncommercial background and especially the genius music of Herman Kopp. Serbian Film in other hand, looks pretty much like "normal movie". Of course, normality is now such a diverse, but when you got all the Hostel, Martyrs, etc in top rentals and cinemas, then it's pretty much the mainstream of "horror". Music of Serbian Film is ok. Few times it becomes even interesting in its attempt to be "disturbing", but most of all it doesn't really manage to do it. Visual side and story plays with extreme "horror", but when you are kind of jaded movie watcher, you can immediately underline several problems:

1) The softcore porno shots what you get, are so annoying it really gets on your nerves. Sometimes you wonder, that is these people who show fake porn in movies (predominantly trying to imitate the late 80's), have actually seen porn movies of the era? I mean, I get the feeling that it's some American Pie movie going here.
2) story progresses somehow very uninterestingly slow, until the "horror" starts.
3) "Horror" isn't really horror, it is series of loosely collaged moments of violence, which occasionally are also very funny.
4) Philosophical content of movie is like watching some Battle Royale II type of nonsense. Assumption, that when you got someone who seeks movie like this, you just throw in few nice words and dramatic pompous acting and suddenly it is such a philosophical statement. Of course the concept of victim as entertainment COULD be good, but movie doesn't really touch the subject more than senseless confused lines.

So what is good then? One can't argue against the visually appealing and tasty scenes! Beating the whores, cutting the head of, throat fucking the toothless to suffocating death and so on. If things like that doesn't appeal to you, then you are not maybe the target audience. I think that main motivation of Serbian movie is the search of limits where half of the audience vomits and cries protests, and the other half celebrates that finally! Finally someone did something as nasty as I hoped!
But it IS little foolish, that when things go this far, it STILL isn't going as far as some of the masters of 70's/80's. When you can show fierce brutal sadism, you can fuck the newborn kid, you can sodomize little boys, you show cumshots landing on face of beaten up whore, but after all, you're still a softcore erotica.  When you compare with for example Martyrs, this is lacking the epic journey though extensive torture. Serbian Film isn't THAT interesting as story or dialogue, and the moments of interests pass very quickly, linked together with kind of artificial flashbacks.
I would recommend to movie with pleasure, but I doubt it will be any classic in the movie history other than perhaps one milestone in the climate of society?

I was reading some magazine recently, where was article about change of climate and new milestone reached. That all the reality TV and entertainment based on other peoples misery, accidents, misfortune and having laugh about it has been losing its popularity a lot. Any show what plays with that kind or related values, has started losing viewers and the success also in other fields of culture isn't that obvious. Now, the new decade shows tendencies of awareness, empathy and positivity (if I recall terms right, but I guess you know what I mean) taking over. People preferring reality TV where something is solved. Something is made better. etc. If it really is true, I guess Serbian Film from 2009/2010, would be kind of land mark, that this is where it all went before someone thought, fuck these exploitative tv shows and collections of senseless violence, maybe it's time to rise the flag of suojeluskunnat and bring some decent values around the country based on solidarity within the nation for example, heh... To build, create and triumph, and not only jerk off and laugh next to sledgehammered child torso.

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« Reply #261 on: January 10, 2011, 07:06:57 PM »

Life and Death of a Porno Gang

I had a torrent of it but got rid of the program it was in so only took a look. Quality wasn't great & subtitles were terrible so I decided best to wait for Synapse's dvd release later this year. Reviews sound promising.
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« Reply #262 on: January 11, 2011, 07:12:41 PM »

I finally got my very own copy of the seventh seal!  just the regular version and not the "diehard" which cost twise as much.
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« Reply #263 on: January 16, 2011, 08:22:43 PM »

EXPENDABLES, stallone movie with everybody in it. And not bad. I was told this should be good, and in deed, if you want brains-off straight action, it is. But it's still kind of unfortunate, that it is not really just a decent action movie, but it is also kind of self aware one. Where it's not just the guys doing what they do well, but also plenty of references to their careers etc.

L'immortel , a.k.a. 22 BULLETS. If there is Jean Reno, I'm pretty much interested to check out. Not long ago, watched Ronin after many years of not seeing it. And this genre is among the favorites. Anytime I rather watch good thriller/crime with slice of action than some horror/gore etc.  This one being french mafia film, with interesting enough story with good turns. Good pretty realistic violence. And Jean Reno in his role, obviously great. If talking of him, I don't remember have I talked in this topic, but if you though you have seen Leon, when you've seen the regular version, make sure you get the directors cut. Brilliant.

MANKINDS LAST EXODUS 1-3. Went to the first even big screen projection of these 3 Johan Av Gran documents. Whole this weekend was dedicated to the man, most known face in pseudo-science coverage & ufo mania in Finland. Almost went today to see 6 x 50 minutes set of documents, but didn't have energy. Cut & pasted video collages of interviews and music-video like editing, with anything from ufos to biblical questions, anti-christ, apocalypse,... and the man himself replied some questions and mostly had intense long monologue after these. About 4 hours of sitting, with just one beer with me, but totally worth it. Got also photo of me and the master himself, heh..

Same theater has series of Herzog documents upcoming. From one to.. was it 3 or even 5 per day, showing huge series. We'll see if there's time to go check them out.
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« Reply #264 on: January 16, 2011, 09:52:15 PM »

Picked up used copies of SYMPATHY FOR MR. VENGEANCE & John Woo's HARDBOILED; watched HARDBOILED last night. Still damn good. Hope to come across KILLER & BULLET IN THE HEAD sooner or later. Will check out MR. VENG. later. I've only seen it once & liked it more than OLDBOY but not sure why (& I'd like to see OLDBOY again).
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« Reply #265 on: January 17, 2011, 08:50:25 AM »

from recent comedy watching, Four Lions is pretty good. UK black comedy about group of retarded muslims starting jihad, and pretty much everything going wrong. It doesn't really base the humor on utmost insults or blasphemy, but observation of stupidity and uncomfortable situations.
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« Reply #266 on: January 17, 2011, 09:02:06 AM »

Same theater has series of Herzog documents upcoming. From one to.. was it 3 or even 5 per day, showing huge series. We'll see if there's time to go check them out.

Just a few days ago I went to see the Werner Herzog documentary 'Bells from the Deep: Faith and Superstition in Russia' at the local theatre. It was really nice - somewhat minimalistic and atmospheric. Some pretty amusing parts. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bells_from_the_Deep. Worth your time, I'd say.
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« Reply #267 on: January 17, 2011, 11:10:14 AM »

from recent comedy watching, Four Lions is pretty good. UK black comedy about group of retarded muslims starting jihad, and pretty much everything going wrong. It doesn't really base the humor on utmost insults or blasphemy, but observation of stupidity and uncomfortable situations.

I logged in to post the same exact thoughts.
It's hilarious yet not stupid. I suggest everybody to watch out for Chris Morris previous mockumentaries "The brass eye", the one on pedophila is an outstanding example on how to do satirical tv with a bite.
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« Reply #268 on: January 18, 2011, 03:44:21 AM »

I love Hardboiled. It's so over the top. Plus it inspired both Infernal Affairs and The Departed.
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« Reply #269 on: January 20, 2011, 06:13:37 AM »

I finally got my very own copy of the seventh seal!  just the regular version and not the "diehard" which cost twise as much.

A great film. Although I think my favourite Bergman is Smultronstället (Wild Strawberries), which features Victor Sjöström, the famed director of Körkarlen (Another favourite of mine, especially the re release version with a new soundtrack from KTL), in his last ever screen performance and a brief appearance from Max Von Sydow.
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