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« on: June 27, 2019, 02:55:59 AM »

What's some cheap and also great gear that you know/own? I'm getting some money in these days and i want to buy some stuff so...
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2019, 12:53:46 PM »

Cheap gear often means impersonal sounds or poor quality. Save money, buy decent stuff you've thoroughly investigated beforehand, you'll be happier in the long run.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2019, 03:35:37 PM »

you can do a lot with very little gear if you buy good stuff. When i first started buying gear I bought a ton of cheap behringer pedals and cheap patch cables and spent a long time wondering why my sound sucked or wouldn't work like I wanted it to, when I ended up buying better cables and saved up for some better pedals it made the process way more enjoyable.

THAT being said - cheap stuff I have used that I still love:

Korg Monotron Delay
https://www.amazon.com/Korg-Monotron-Analog-Ribbon-Synthesizer/dp/B00684KFAM

cassette players at any thrift store are great
you can find a lot at thrift stores and rig some shit up to make some cool noise

I really like all of CS's gizmos - buy some contact mics and make some shaker boxes / junk noise
https://www.etsy.com/shop/CrankSturgeon

idk - I would say just look around for some shit that you think is cool and spend the $$$ it'll be worth it.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2019, 03:43:03 PM »

Save money, buy decent stuff you've thoroughly investigated beforehand, you'll be happier in the long run.

 I'm not sure "cheap" gear is going to give you uninteresting/impersonal sounds...I think that has more to do with the user. Garbage in, garbage out etc.  This second part however is super important. Do research, borrow stuff from friends (if thats an option), take care of new purchases in case you don't like them so you can easily return/exchange/flog second hand.
 I'm a huge believer in people not needing expensive stuff (I'm fucking cheap too), but after you've been at it for a while and start to learn what it is you are actually trying to do there usually comes a time where you realize that consumer electronics are no longer going to cut it and will probably be willing to invest more money.

Can I also just say that the original post here is sort of vague...what is it you are trying to do exactly?  Interested in synthesis, abuse of pedals etc.?
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2019, 05:41:22 PM »

to counter the prevailing opinions here i usually buy cheap gear and a lot of times ill buy shit just because it's cheap and old and stupid-looking, like mxr doubleshot distortion or "stereo" flanger that looks like a toy. new cheap stuff sucks but old stuff is good. i'll never give up my boomerang v1 phrase sampler or SP202

also is there anything worse than seeing someone play a set with nice expensive gear but it totally sucks?? fuck off with that
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2019, 07:19:28 PM »

what do you mean by cheap? you can get a minibrute for under $200 or a crank sturgeon shaker/mic for under $50. both in my mind are "cheap" but one is cheap sounding and the other a quality piece of handmade gear for noisers by a noiser.
showing my bias but price point isnt always the factor to look at. i say save money to go for a unique gear piece that speaks to your wants. of course their is nothing wrong with buying a cheap hardware synth like the arturia to get an idea of how you want to move forward.
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2019, 01:51:08 AM »

DS-1 + mods
It's all about how you use it, baby.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2019, 05:47:11 PM »


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Cheap gear often means impersonal sounds or poor quality

Expensive gear usually means impersonal 'high quality' sounds unsuited to Noise :D
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2019, 09:59:47 PM »

You tell that to all the noisers who bought a Sherman Filterbank to use it as a distortion unit, to Chris Goudreau and his modular, etc...
Sure, it's all about how you use it, but a crappy Behringer pedal will always sound like a crappy Behringer pedal no matter how well you use it.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2019, 10:14:34 PM »

IMHO for experimental gear should be attached to your own personal journey thru sound, as hippie as that may sound. Nowadays it's easy to find info on gear from "specialists" but back in the day you did what you could with what you could get your hands on and that approach befits experimentation more than a thousand reviews and board comments could.
It depends in what kind of sound you want to play with, PE tends to have a mentality close to metal and hardcore where there are lots of rules being spewn by people (who usually don't even make the sounds) and noise have the jokers with one liners and not helpful in a practical way input.

It's ludicrous to think that a cheap piece of equipment will steal your personality and I guess it fits an ad more than anything (Buy our synth and be unique like all the others). Usually cheapness relates more to durability (esp. if you plan to tour) and less options than the sound itself. And in experimental "sound quality" is EXTREMELY personal, lofi is valid/wanted, glitches and problems result in greatness and all that.

Anyway, it all depends in what you are after initially, playing with it and making your foundation so you can expand and buy expensive gera that actually makes sense for you, because there's nothing more limiting than buying expensive stuff that doesn't works for you but you feel compelled to use because $$$$.
This question is very open ended, it really depends in what yo uare after and it helps to give some examples because even the word "cheap" means different things in different contexts.

For almost nothing you can always try things on the computer and then get the equivalent hardware (if you want to, computer may be ok for you).
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2019, 12:09:09 PM »

but a crappy Behringer pedal will always sound like a crappy Behringer pedal no matter how well you use it.

no, it will sound like the pedal it's an exact clone of :)
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2019, 03:50:32 PM »

If you want synth sounds, a lot of the small, desktop synths that have come out in the last few years (Korg Volcas, Roland "Boutique" series, Arturia Mini/Micro, etc) are very reasonably priced and sound pretty great. You can get them second hand now too for even cheaper prices.
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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2019, 06:13:32 PM »

 Seeing some of the back and forth in here, I am actually embarrassed that I replied.
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2019, 03:31:57 PM »

use your mind its important to just experiment with anything and everything and find what suits your aesthetic

computers - synths digital & analog- mixers - instruments - different samplers theres no one rule or one sound or one piece of equipment - just try different set ups you can afford. and get a external audio interface to get it into your computer and process that way - scarlett 2i2 if your that way inclined
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