Merzbow Top Hits

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DSOL

Quote from: Hemwick on May 10, 2019, 05:25:24 PM
I was pointing out how he drank during the recording of Venereology and now being straight edge that's all. I find it odd to take a stance against one part of his past and not the other, but the album will sell well and profit is always good

ahh okay, I guess I was confused because during his twitter war with the Merzcast, he told someone that he is "vegan straight edge" as why he wasn't happy about the porn stuff being mentioned. it's like he has the early 90's hardcore mentality that being vegan/straight edge gives you some kind of moral high ground - which is odd since he didn't get involved with it, until the early/mid 00's
"I do not get bored of nude ladies nor good Japanese noise"

Hemwick

Quote from: DSOL on May 10, 2019, 05:49:37 PM
Quote from: Hemwick on May 10, 2019, 05:25:24 PM
I was pointing out how he drank during the recording of Venereology and now being straight edge that's all. I find it odd to take a stance against one part of his past and not the other, but the album will sell well and profit is always good

ahh okay, I guess I was confused because during his twitter war with the Merzcast, he told someone that he is "vegan straight edge" as why he wasn't happy about the porn stuff being mentioned. it's like he has the early 90's hardcore mentality that being vegan/straight edge gives you some kind of moral high ground - which is odd since he didn't get involved with it, until the early/mid 00's


It's all good I didn't phrase it right. 

pureterror

Quote from: Zeno Marx on May 09, 2019, 10:18:42 PM
When it was revealed that Venereology was fucked with because of Reiko's involvement on the excluded track of the recent reissue, I thought it was admirable, on a social level, that Merzcast purposely avoided sharing that information, but I also thought...Uh, that's sort of significant information, explaining why the reissue is different and why other reissues could be altered as well.  If an artist is going to revise their work because of relationships,  that isn't, in my opinion, just soap opera junk.  That's key information on a few levels.  That's the kind of gag order that creates disinformation and bullshit revisionism.

Not sure if it's been mentioned elsewhere but Greh puts in hours of post-production work cleaning up each episode. The recorded episode for Venereology was much longer but it was edited to remove some threads for length, clarity & flow, and others topics were cut because they were expected to be discussed in depth in the future. Some stuff was dropped to keep the general mood positive or not to get too speculative or "inside baseball." None of us had heard the vinyl reissue yet - we had discussed doing a future episode covering just that - but, as you might guess, our initial impressions of the release, and omitting that track, were not too hot.

aububs

Quote from: Cementimental on May 10, 2019, 11:08:54 AM
Quotediscussing his work but is not fine with them discussing his private life. which is fair enough.

but how are people to know what is fine and what is private, or what he's going to be embarrassed about? Merzbow has famously made the analogy of his music being pornography, packaged his early tapes with pornography, made soundtracks for bondage performances, written for/edited an S&M magazine, recently re-released an album called 'Pornoise' with pornography on the cover... so how was GX to know it was off-limits to tell an anecdote about how, when Merzbow was in the USA around the time when he was still using pornographic images in his work, he bought a load of pornography? :D

yeah, good post

i agree that it's hard to judge and that there is a hypocrisy there on akita's part. i just also think it's ok for someone to be protective of their private life and if they suddenly decide that they want to distance themselves from the past, fine. it happens all the time

Zeno Marx

Odd how people are going to lock onto him being vegan or into metalcore or whatever.  You really think that is what caused him to react and behave like this?  We're all whackadoos.  Don't bother assigning reasons why.
"the overindulgent machines were their children"
I only buy vinyl, d00ds.

Hemwick

Quote from: Zeno Marx on May 10, 2019, 08:38:28 PM
Odd how people are going to lock onto him being vegan or into metalcore or whatever.  You really think that is what caused him to react and behave like this?  We're all whackadoos.  Don't bother assigning reasons why.

Great point. I am guilty of bring up the vegan and straightedge.  But didn't assume that's what made him a whacko, I always figured he was wacked out and as he gets older it's just going to get worse. Plus he pushes the fact he is vegan and its always brought up in interviews anymore too. 

DSOL

it might not have caused him to react like he did. but how do you take his response (before he deleted most of the tweets during his tweet storm about the Merzcast) "because vegan straight edge or Merzbow is vegan straight edge", he said that on more than one tweet to someone, especially whenever the porn discussion was brought up.

if anything he is locking himself into that box and pushing out that agenda. if people start to lock onto it, it's his only doing
"I do not get bored of nude ladies nor good Japanese noise"

Zeno Marx

Quote from: DSOL on May 10, 2019, 09:50:56 PM
it might not have caused him to react like he did. but how do you take his response (before he deleted most of the tweets during his tweet storm about the Merzcast) "because vegan straight edge or Merzbow is vegan straight edge", he said that on more than one tweet to someone, especially whenever the porn discussion was brought up.

if anything he is locking himself into that box and pushing out that agenda. if people start to lock onto it, it's his only doing
I hadn't seen those.  Interesting.  Nothing like a little doctrine to fuck up us all.
"the overindulgent machines were their children"
I only buy vinyl, d00ds.

EXU

I didn't listened to episode 14, bummer. If anyone has idea how I can please send me a message, thanks.
Episode 13 is very good, I could listen to GX talking all day ("but I digress..." PLEASE DO!).

bitewerksMTB

I only managed to listen to the episode with Philip Best. It was more interesting than I expected & now they're all gone, right?

As far as the deleted track with his ex, maybe she requested not to be included anymore? Are any of the other reissues missing her involvement/credit?

DSOL

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 15, 2019, 06:15:48 PM
I only managed to listen to the episode with Philip Best. It was more interesting than I expected & now they're all gone, right?

As far as the deleted track with his ex, maybe she requested not to be included anymore? Are any of the other reissues missing her involvement/credit?

only episodes 13 & 14 were taken off, you can still listen to the rest of them. I missed both 13 & 14 because I like to binge listen and before I got the chance to listen, they has taken them down
"I do not get bored of nude ladies nor good Japanese noise"

acsenger

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on May 15, 2019, 06:15:48 PM
As far as the deleted track with his ex, maybe she requested not to be included anymore? Are any of the other reissues missing her involvement/credit?

As far as I know, none of the other albums that have recently been reissued featured her.

EXU

Episode 13 can be found on Chartable, it's great.

Haare

Quote from: Cementimental on May 10, 2019, 11:08:54 AM
Quotediscussing his work but is not fine with them discussing his private life. which is fair enough.

but how are people to know what is fine and what is private, or what he's going to be embarrassed about? Merzbow has famously made the analogy of his music being pornography, packaged his early tapes with pornography, made soundtracks for bondage performances, written for/edited an S&M magazine, recently re-released an album called 'Pornoise' with pornography on the cover... so how was GX to know it was off-limits to tell an anecdote about how, when Merzbow was in the USA around the time when he was still using pornographic images in his work, he bought a load of pornography? :D
They were in Holland, not USA but yeah, so what if he bought porn. The whole Merzcast was mainly earcandy for noise nerds like us and  free publicity for Merzbow and he fucked it up royally.
So, what's the situation now? No episodes of the Noiseworld podcast yet?

DSOL

no new episodes yet, but they posted about Masonna so its safe to assume that is probably next on the agenda
"I do not get bored of nude ladies nor good Japanese noise"