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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2021, 06:45:08 PM »

People involved have reptiles and the creators buy frozen rats as reptile food.

If only they presented it in such a sterile manner.  https://www.facebook.com/pg/officialneuesachlichkeit/photos/?ref=page_internal

I will admit that I might have been wrong about them being actively abusive, but with some of the photos that they have posted can I really be blamed for thinking what I did?

Well, it's not really a question of blaming, more a bit of background Information. As far as I know, those pics were heavily influenced by "High Risk Lifestyle" era BU where there was also a dead rat in the LP special edition and various artwork with cut open rats and such.

Fair enough, I guess.  I have had no contact with these people whatsoever, so seeing the pictures without backgroud left me feeling like there could only be one explanation.  I hope, at very least, that a snake (or some other creature) had a meal after the photo shoot!
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2021, 07:52:32 AM »

I think it doesn't make much sense to compare Neuesachlichkeit to Fight Your Own War. They have very different approach and purpose. Originally, when SI started, the hopes where the 80's/90's style "anything goes". Not specific sound, not specific labels, not focusing on one corner of the genre.  Book like FYOW probably aimed to do it in a bit same way, attempting to cover slightly wider range of approach. I would assume it would be vastly better, if it was like vol 1, and to be expected more. Handful of volumes that give attention to even more countries, bands, subgenres, different aesthetics and so on.

In such case, it wouldn't matter much, if one particular volume is not perfect document of history, but ongoing documentation, hoping eventually to build wholeness that has purpose. As example, I am not overly concerned if all issues of SI are equally good and equally interesting, or gradually getting better. I'm more interested in situation, how I would feel of the pile of stuff when issue 20 comes out.

Neuesachlichkeit is very focused zine/book, and there is certainly audience for this approach, myself included. It is also easy to conclude that claiming it to be "vastly better" compared to something else, is easily dismissed if reader is into even slightly different part of scene? If sex & violence and all things extreme is not your liking, there is very little Neuesachlichkeit would offer?

I personally recommend to get all, though. This book, Neuesachlichkeit, Personal Best, New Forces, and so on. Each have enough content that can be skipped and continue from next piece.
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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2021, 02:48:07 PM »

Where is the best place to order Neuesachlichkeit from? Am based in the UK. Thanks
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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2021, 02:59:07 PM »

Try this:
https://abgrund.bigcartel.com/product/neuesachlichkeit?fbclid=IwAR1LwOMN0tPGDcJ4DRAEFzvXZb6rdcO2AWLeUc-cgD0Gh_Yh1a657HXmX-w

Or, get in contact via their FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/officialneuesachlichkeit

You might also find an email address on that FB page.

Actually, on that bigcartel page it gives the email address, and says not to try and order via bigcartel!
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« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2021, 11:05:00 PM »

Thanks for that :)
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« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2021, 02:20:17 PM »



Neuesachlichkeit is very focused zine/book, and there is certainly audience for this approach, myself included. It is also easy to conclude that claiming it to be "vastly better" compared to something else, is easily dismissed if reader is into even slightly different part of scene? If sex & violence and all things extreme is not your liking, there is very little Neuesachlichkeit would offer?

I personally recommend to get all, though. This book, Neuesachlichkeit, Personal Best, New Forces, and so on. Each have enough content that can be skipped and continue from next piece.

I agree with everything stated here. I was sorry to not be able to contribute to that book, author is a trustworthy person, but the approach of the book is diametrically different (not opposed, simply different), my the bible of filth published by my favourite French/Russian couple.

I support everything that documents the moment on a tangible support.
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« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2021, 12:39:03 AM »

Some invaluable anecdotes from old timers in FYOW but also contentious propositions throughout. Probably due to its overzealous attempt to theorize the genre. This severance of power electronics from harsh noise sometimes provides valuable insights, but on the whole is quite awkward. This is the first time I've been made aware that AMK was 'power electronics' and not strictly 'noise'...


EDIT: This comment probably should have gone into the "The Rift Between PE and HN" thread in the GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION board.
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