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« Reply #570 on: December 13, 2019, 02:30:59 PM »

Drum machine? Hail? I always saw Dirtmaster mainly as a drummer and I am pretty sure Inheritance Of Evilness has real drums. Or some really amazing organic programming. Superb album in any case. Even the Lawgiver MCD that contains the bonus tracks from the 2xLP version of the album did not feel like it was just leftovers.

Yeah I went back and listened again and thought “what the fuck there’s no drum machine here” so I must have read that at Metal Archives or some other useless place. Definitely sounds organic. I love the riffs and I love the bass playing on this one. Like a trashy Beherit stretched to the extreme. Gotta track down those other mini albums.
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« Reply #571 on: December 14, 2019, 09:57:26 AM »

I've yet to get Inheritance Of Evilness but I have a couple of friends who are total HAIL devotees. The Bestial Storms Of The Abyssic Pit is great though and Death Citadel's Bestial Antaumus is a tour van favorite.
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« Reply #572 on: December 14, 2019, 09:04:33 PM »

https://nyogthaeblisz.bandcamp.com/

New Nyogthaeblisz finally out. Preview track sounds vicious.
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« Reply #573 on: December 14, 2019, 09:47:27 PM »

https://nyogthaeblisz.bandcamp.com/

New Nyogthaeblisz finally out. Preview track sounds vicious.

Sounds awesome!  Hopefully the rest is just as good.
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« Reply #574 on: December 16, 2019, 05:07:21 PM »

https://nyogthaeblisz.bandcamp.com/

New Nyogthaeblisz finally out. Preview track sounds vicious.

FINALLY
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« Reply #575 on: December 31, 2019, 05:55:26 PM »

Does anyone recall the info in regards to Beherit's "At the Devil's Studio 1990" not actually being recorded in 1990?
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« Reply #576 on: December 31, 2019, 06:05:22 PM »

https://nyogthaeblisz.bandcamp.com/

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FINALLY

album has not disappointed
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« Reply #577 on: December 31, 2019, 07:11:06 PM »

Does anyone recall the info in regards to Beherit's "At the Devil's Studio 1990" not actually being recorded in 1990?

A lot of chatter about it at the time on the NWN forum but no actual “proof” other than “well isn’t this convenient you just “found” these recordings” iirc. Record slaps either way.

Good bump - been on a real South American kick lately. Hadez demos, Mutilator LP, Necrofago demo, Masacre LP, Reencarnation collection, Mortuorio demos, Sepultura, Holocausto, etc.

Then I started listening to Venom - everything up to and including Possessed fuckin’ slaps.
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« Reply #578 on: December 31, 2019, 07:55:02 PM »

Does anyone recall the info in regards to Beherit's "At the Devil's Studio 1990" not actually being recorded in 1990?
A lot of chatter about it at the time on the NWN forum but no actual “proof” other than “well isn’t this convenient you just “found” these recordings” iirc. Record slaps either way.

Yeah I tried to do some googling last night and wasn't coming up was much. It has a markedly better recording quality than Seventh Blasphemy from the same year, which would be the only thing to point to a more recent recording, if that's the case.

Then I started listening to Venom - everything up to and including Possessed fuckin’ slaps.

Jammed At War With Satan yesterday and Black Metal the day before. Was never huge on AWWS but had a great time with it this go 'round.
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« Reply #579 on: January 07, 2020, 06:09:47 PM »

Apropos of nothing, can anyone give me a recommendation for albums like "Under the Sign of Hell by Gorgoroth? I'm not on any metal forums so I don't know where else to ask :)

All the stupid bullshit surrounding Gorgoroth aside, that album is one of my favorite black metal records ever. Maybe my favorite. The insane drum production, the wild and chaotic songs that twist and turn rather than repeat themselves, the searing and distorted guitar solos that come out of nowhere. It does a lot of stuff all in the same record that I haven't heard elsewhere. The closest I've heard are the first two Haemoth albums which sound similarly raw and caustic but are generally much more repetitive.

Any recommendations are welcome. Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #580 on: January 09, 2020, 01:24:12 AM »

Apropos of nothing, can anyone give me a recommendation for albums like "Under the Sign of Hell by Gorgoroth? I'm not on any metal forums so I don't know where else to ask :)

All the stupid bullshit surrounding Gorgoroth aside, that album is one of my favorite black metal records ever. Maybe my favorite. The insane drum production, the wild and chaotic songs that twist and turn rather than repeat themselves, the searing and distorted guitar solos that come out of nowhere. It does a lot of stuff all in the same record that I haven't heard elsewhere. The closest I've heard are the first two Haemoth albums which sound similarly raw and caustic but are generally much more repetitive.

Any recommendations are welcome. Thanks in advance.

Gorgoroth have always been a complete wtf-fest as a band and like a lot of the 2nd-wave classics, UTSOH is another case of brilliant contextual randomness. I think I know my black metal classics and obscurities rather well and I'm not sure I can come up with albums conveying that exact same atmosphere due to so many peculiar factors gathered on a single release. Like, for instance, you hear similarities in Haemoth's early albums but I don't.
For me, the most important trademark of GOOD Gorgoroth's albums are their guitars. The first three albums had KILLER melancholic, atmospheric and cold guitar riffs. The "band" that captured those riffs' essence the best to my ear is Taake on their first album. Want those riffs that "twist and turn" in Norwegian way with some odd production? Check Kvist's unique album, which is a proper masterpiece (I read somewhere the drummer on it was like 16 or 17 when the album was recorded, which is crazy, but then, so was Trym when Enslaved recorded "Frost" so...) And if the caveman drumming is your thing, you should check out the YouTube videos of Immortal during the "Fuck Christ" tour as Grim was drumming for them back then and he just bashes his drumkit like he does on UTSOH. Too bad he never recorded anything with Immortal. His drumming was good on the early Borknagar stuff but the production doesn't let appear any kind of craziness in there.
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« Reply #581 on: January 09, 2020, 01:48:32 AM »

...UTSOH is another case of brilliant contextual randomness.

This is it. A set of right time and place circumstances that resulted in a brilliant release. Because it has such an immediate impact it's not something that can easily, or desirably, be reproduced.
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« Reply #582 on: January 09, 2020, 10:11:23 AM »

 i have admittedly been only fucking with noise for years. i never fucked with metal because i honestly thought it was weaker than noise and i felt on a quest for the most extreme shit i could find.  now as the years go on i am seriously only recently ADDICTED to this whole world i've waited to explore. ofcourse in past i have fucked with bands that crossed over into noise world like RIDE FOR REVENGE, CLANDESTINE BLAZE, INTOLITARION, BEHERIT. but recently theres much more i've been loving and appreciating like never before. i will never give up on noise but its cool to find another genre that holds up anger-wise.

In the last month i have read THE DEVILS CRADLE which is a history of Finnish black metal. highly recommend it. REcenlty picked up the feral house swedish book BLOOD FIRE DEATH at quimby's in chicago (everyone going to GO in april should go there). . havent read it yet but am looking forward to.

im posting to ask of other suggestions for books on black metal history. i feel like a noob but its exciting..... recently fucking with warloghe, satanic warmaster, musta surma. you get the picture only Finnish rn but ready for more.. any recommendations for books/ artist would be cool. also bear in mind i like to own physical media so vothana ect i fuck with but dont care to suck the dick.

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« Reply #583 on: January 09, 2020, 04:17:25 PM »

Gorgoroth have always been a complete wtf-fest as a band and like a lot of the 2nd-wave classics, UTSOH is another case of brilliant contextual randomness. I think I know my black metal classics and obscurities rather well and I'm not sure I can come up with albums conveying that exact same atmosphere due to so many peculiar factors gathered on a single release. Like, for instance, you hear similarities in Haemoth's early albums but I don't.
For me, the most important trademark of GOOD Gorgoroth's albums are their guitars. The first three albums had KILLER melancholic, atmospheric and cold guitar riffs. The "band" that captured those riffs' essence the best to my ear is Taake on their first album. Want those riffs that "twist and turn" in Norwegian way with some odd production? Check Kvist's unique album, which is a proper masterpiece (I read somewhere the drummer on it was like 16 or 17 when the album was recorded, which is crazy, but then, so was Trym when Enslaved recorded "Frost" so...) And if the caveman drumming is your thing, you should check out the YouTube videos of Immortal during the "Fuck Christ" tour as Grim was drumming for them back then and he just bashes his drumkit like he does on UTSOH. Too bad he never recorded anything with Immortal. His drumming was good on the early Borknagar stuff but the production doesn't let appear any kind of craziness in there.

Thanks for the thoughtful response! I'll have to check out the Taake and Kvist albums.
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« Reply #584 on: January 09, 2020, 04:34:05 PM »

i have admittedly been only fucking with noise for years. i never fucked with metal because i honestly thought it was weaker than noise and i felt on a quest for the most extreme shit i could find.  now as the years go on i am seriously only recently ADDICTED to this whole world i've waited to explore. ofcourse in past i have fucked with bands that crossed over into noise world like RIDE FOR REVENGE, CLANDESTINE BLAZE, INTOLITARION, BEHERIT. but recently theres much more i've been loving and appreciating like never before. i will never give up on noise but its cool to find another genre that holds up anger-wise.

In the last month i have read THE DEVILS CRADLE which is a history of Finnish black metal. highly recommend it. REcenlty picked up the feral house swedish book BLOOD FIRE DEATH at quimby's in chicago (everyone going to GO in april should go there). . havent read it yet but am looking forward to.

im posting to ask of other suggestions for books on black metal history. i feel like a noob but its exciting..... recently fucking with warloghe, satanic warmaster, musta surma. you get the picture only Finnish rn but ready for more.. any recommendations for books/ artist would be cool. also bear in mind i like to own physical media so vothana ect i fuck with but dont care to suck the dick.



Wolves Among Sheep is hard to find, but a lengthy history of NSBM.

As for artists I would recommend Dead Reptile Shrine (weird, improvised bm, takes on noisy/dark ambient aspects), everything on CW Productions though the newish VA "Even Biology is Revolting Despite it's Natural Appeal" makes a great starting point (mostly still available at his site, best USBM going, Cirrhus/Furdidurke/Kestrel, etc), and Bone Awl/everything Klaxon records puts out too.
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