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« Reply #225 on: May 02, 2022, 06:18:52 PM »

OUT NOW: AFTERBLAST #2
Sam of PHAGE TAPES and Taylor of SCREAM & WRITHE / ABSURD EXPOSITOON join me to talk more in depth about the ins and outs of running a label and mailorder. Lots of gems and trade secrets brought out into the open.

Preview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsolJFkT-o

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« Reply #226 on: May 05, 2022, 02:14:47 PM »

EXTRA! EXTRA! Bonus episode out now!
"Moment Of Truth"
Mack Chami joins me again to set the record straight on his power electronics project KOUFAR and take back the narrative on his works dealing with his identity as a first generation Lebanese American.

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« Reply #227 on: May 06, 2022, 01:10:32 PM »

Decent episode. Gradually grows better till end.

There are moments when both of the guys present here, mention that some of the themes are bigger, not just about Koufar, but possible to apply more universally. This is something that could be remembered when being annoyed that someone is not aware of all things and has to make assumptions and discuss merely based on gut feeling and limited knowledge currently available.
 
As example, it would be odd to demand people knowledge of each religious group of Lebanon to be allowed to discuss about something related to things happening there. Why? Lets say we extend this to any other country. What we know of Bolivia? What we know of Sweden? Who are Spanish people? What are languages spoken in Spain or Italy? and so on and on.. I am sure you'd find now some Finns who might give you hard time if not knowing and appreciating  indigenous people of this country. While I might be realistic enough to say, why would anyone know or care of this country languages, ethnicity or history. What do we know in the end? At least some may be genuinely interested to learn - even sparked from realizing how little one knows about something that appeared interesting.


When not seeing the reality beyond your own perspective, one can imagine discussion, that could go something like this:
-You can't get what I'm dealing with this release
-Well, you can't know what people "get"
-You have not been through all things I have
-well, you have not been through all things I or other people have
-You don't know all the hardships I've gone though...
-pff... well, what can I say? We can go on like this for all day...

My assumption is,  that most grown up people have eventually realized, that most of hardships and nuisances and misunderstandings in life are pretty common. Bridges get burned, relationships ruined, people calling you with names, people not giving chance based on whatever quality you may be considered to have. Losing good friends, getting into all sorts of trouble, etc. One can pick up plenty of things to connect it to. Be it gender, race, disability, age, aesthetic taste or whatever. I would assume it is fact, that one simply has to accept is there is no possibility that one is "widely understood" among people who barely care or would somehow control the narrative how their works must be commented or experienced. Interview is like this, certainly gives Koufar possibility to make his perspective heard and give depth to releases what is positive indeed. If we talk about power electronics in wider sense, like the realism was concluded to be in the episode: people will relate to in certain ways, from their own point of view, regardless what artists would be doing. Very often negatively. That's how it goes.

Con-Dom gets mentioned few times. The latest phase of gigs he was doing, regardless of being around for 30+ years, one of his European shows was cancelled. Organizer had approached about needing statement about two first Con-Dom tapes. Reason was that unexplained use of swastika on release cover ain't the thing they can accept. Instead of explanation, Con-Dom simply told he'll skip the gig. Which was of course right thing to do.

Like in case of Con-Dom, asking clarification or statement about "racism", could be replied that this ain't noise for dummies. Work discussed this for decades, and it ain't worth to discuss if the questions are dumb. If you really get something, it is different type of experience than confirmation or being told. That makes me wonder how many do think most of power electronics is some kind of identity politics or lecture? I would assume there is very very small % of entire genre what falls into such category. I don't think we need personal history, to get what artists expresses, unless he is talking more about himself, than something else out there.

I suppose there is vastly growing idea that artist must be somehow "be real", on level some learn from, for example, hip hop? I think that approach is a bit counter productive when applied to art in general.
Friend of mine mentioned that recently people has been demanding Laibach to give their clear stand about Russia/Ukraine war. Hmmm.. Demanding Laibach clear political stand? jeeeesus...

In same way, I don't think Koufar needs to really explain himself to the haters out there, but if he chooses to, I would recommend all the fans to listen to it as it can give a lot of nuggets of info & background for the releases what ain't anywhere else.

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« Reply #228 on: May 09, 2022, 06:17:17 PM »

Out now! Episode 23 with Rose Actor-Engel of APOLOGIST and NO RENT RECORDS!

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« Reply #229 on: May 09, 2022, 08:13:12 PM »


I don't think Koufar needs to really explain himself to the haters out there


I never wanted to, but the facts are such.

I have a God Is War album coming out on Closed Casket Activities this year. Not to also mention its going to come out at the same time when I go on tour with Blood Incantation, Full of Hell, Mortuous, and Vermin Womb later this year. When the tour was announced, that same evening it was brought to my agent and Dylan from Foh that I'm "promoting fascist ideologies" and so I had to do this in order to keep moving forward. To even quote Blood Meridian "These anonymous creatures, he said, may seem little or nothing in the world. Yet the smallest crumb can devour us. Any smallest thing beneath yon rock out of men's knowing."

The fact is I want to be a full time musician and do great things like take care of my wife and InshAllah future family with it. Unlike so many of my PE peers with office jobs/solid working class can't relate or understand that through music is the only way I can truly succeed (because I always fucking have, my work has always been growing and hasn't stopped). Been working in retail for too long to just hop into an office job without knowing someone and frankly I don't want to work a fucking regular job, never have. I think to be branded and blacklisted over being labeled by things that people on this board revel in is fucking moronic, and a waste of my talent. So this is why I did it. I wanted to finally have an official statement on it so idiots can be directed to it.

Like I mentioned in the first interview though, some folks want to be a big catfish in a small pond and Im trying to be a great white shark in the ocean of this life. So this is how I must move.

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« Reply #230 on: May 10, 2022, 12:39:44 AM »

May Allah and your agent secure a prosperous future for you and your wife
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« Reply #231 on: May 10, 2022, 12:02:24 PM »

I wanted to finally have an official statement on it so idiots can be directed to it.

Like I mentioned in the first interview though, some folks want to be a big catfish in a small pond and Im trying to be a great white shark in the ocean of this life. So this is how I must move.


I wish you good luck. It's noble one to have higher expectations, believe in himself, and set bigger goals. If that's what he really wants ...

If that was for the idiots then you did nothing, sorry. Actually you fed them. I am not sure what's bigger satisfication for them, to destroy their 'target' or to bring him in that position so he has to explain ? In any case i dont think your statement -what you say in it- means anything to them. If it has any use as such is to direct organizers / bigger labels to it once they tell you they have 'complaints' , there are 'problems' etc. To save your time and energy.

I wont tell how you 'must move' , dont know, your life, your bussiness. But sharks dont move this way. This i know.
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« Reply #232 on: May 10, 2022, 04:14:12 PM »

I wanted to finally have an official statement on it so idiots can be directed to it.

Like I mentioned in the first interview though, some folks want to be a big catfish in a small pond and Im trying to be a great white shark in the ocean of this life. So this is how I must move.


I wish you good luck. It's noble one to have higher expectations, believe in himself, and set bigger goals. If that's what he really wants ...

If that was for the idiots then you did nothing, sorry. Actually you fed them. I am not sure what's bigger satisfication for them, to destroy their 'target' or to bring him in that position so he has to explain ? In any case i dont think your statement -what you say in it- means anything to them. If it has any use as such is to direct organizers / bigger labels to it once they tell you they have 'complaints' , there are 'problems' etc. To save your time and energy.

I wont tell how you 'must move' , dont know, your life, your bussiness. But sharks dont move this way. This i know.

The person Mack is talking about backed off after the interview.
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« Reply #233 on: May 10, 2022, 07:40:09 PM »

can't relate or understand [...] so idiots can be directed to it.

seems like a real catch 22
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« Reply #234 on: May 10, 2022, 09:49:42 PM »

If it has any use as such is to direct organizers / bigger labels to it once they tell you they have 'complaints' , there are 'problems' etc. To save your time and energy.

I wont tell how you 'must move' , dont know, your life, your bussiness. But sharks dont move this way. This i know.

You figured it out with the first part, that second part...nice try.
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« Reply #235 on: May 11, 2022, 02:46:21 PM »

So back to the topic at hand - how about the interview with Rosie?
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« Reply #236 on: May 11, 2022, 09:12:56 PM »

New episode is good. Had to listen it in couple parts. Beginning felt dragging a bit or perhaps it was more my lack of knowledge of artists, but it got good. Lots of topic what could be discussed further.

I am quite surprised Crumer would live off the No Rent label, hah! Feels like it is somewhat connected to discussion of "noise success".

I would guess people starting or even running labels may benefit from this and some "business oriented" discussions. Bandcamp critic is good to hear.

In early part there was some talk about how Rose seems to be quite less known - outside the immediate circle of followers. She mentioned not ever sending review copies to press. Which seems a bit amusing, as I find myself asking... what press? Is there anymore press that exists, where one could get attention? With fairly limited runs of tapes, I think one quickly is ruled out of certain possibilities. There is some talk how method of doing 100 tapes, breaking even, little profit and moving on works out. It does, but for example I personally find more interesting than the immediate sales, the potential that can be there. Like you can find Freak Animal CD's from multiple Japanese record stores. Who buys them there? I have no idea! It's crowd that exists. Or that you can walk into Finnish music store chain desk and ask them to have Nicole 12 CD for next day and it can be done. As ridiculous as it sounds. It's just that against all the expectations, against any sense, one would see what if you try is there potential beyond audience who is in direct contact this week or this month. It is certainly consuming approach and works only if you got storage and patience. Tapes are neat, but if you try to arrange distribution there is certainly pro's and con's.


There was talk about a bit more centralized noise information. If that is correct way to put it. Several years ago, there was bubbling under idea of Special Interests as website. A bit more complex platform that it is now. Idea was, that why not have like proper media, where you'd have news of labels re-posted, reviews, interviews, interviews done by other sites, videoclip found anywhere. Sort of centralized site where info that is scattered all over the place can be found. Then list of potential flaws of idea came clear. You include wrong kind of content, and other guys don't want to be associated. You deal just that kind of stuff and big part of genre is ignored, which ain't good either. Publishing news of label X, but not willing to publish news of label Y, because they suck.. and soon you alienate bunch of people based on perhaps nothing else but personal taste. And so on and on. Just the idea of trying to keep up, multiple times a week, and I would know you will burn out. If it would be collective project, there would be some potential, but eventually it might be like most things: Enthusiastic early phase, and then regressing quickly into something else.

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Forum, as many flaws as it may have, is something that this all can be done. It ain't the same thing, but theoretically, anyone who registered in, can promote, post, talk, introduce, remind of whatever things noise. Their own, or things they just found out. It is not centralized. It is still one of the many marginal places, but somehow moderately centralizes things like news, ads, selling items, announcing items, that hopefully won't disappear in abundance of streams.

One advice for keeping eye of forum quick, is to use:
http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?action=recent
Found from bottom of front page, Special Interest - Info Center part: "View the most recent posts on the forum."

That way one doesn't have to open every single topic, but click this one thing and can view all messages in order how the appear. If you see something you want to check better, just click topic to navigate.
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Rose mentions that she could think right away 10 other women who should have been "before her" on the podcast. Well, I'd vote for Rachel Slurr to invited!

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« Reply #237 on: Today at 06:04:59 PM »

Out now - Episode 24 with Wyatt Howland of SKIN GRAFT!!!!

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