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Started by FreakAnimalFinland, December 10, 2009, 09:03:21 PM

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FreakAnimalFinland

I watched the dvd. First it seemed to be too slow paced and lame, especially the kotirosvo scene, hah. If wanting to hear this kind of dialogue, one can just go to bar. But it did get better. Or lets say, if not better, at least kind of typical. Knowing people of this type, I don't wonder that some people end up in such lifestyles, but I do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..
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saw a poster for this at my local theater. anyone seen this yet?

http://www.afilmunfinished.com/

MT

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 20, 2010, 10:37:19 AM
...but I do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..
In the alternate version of Reindeer, some of the girls turn out to be a good ol' pirihuora.

Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 20, 2010, 10:37:19 AMI do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..

I've seen it happen, too. Nice, ambitious, intelligent, middle-class girl meets shit-on-legs fucktard and ends up pregnant, homeless, addicted and miserable. Too common a story to even consider. Humans are stupid.
Shikata ga nai.

Max

Quote from: NIKOZ on September 11, 2010, 01:18:54 PM
Yeah, he hanged himself in Cambodia.

The "word on the streets" says he got involved with some rough crowd while in Cambodia, pissed them off and got snuffed.

Ashmonger

Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on September 22, 2010, 05:13:41 AM
Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on September 20, 2010, 10:37:19 AMI do wonder what the fuck these girls who hang out with them, get from this? You see them dressed decently, looking neat, with cider cans, sipping it with civilized teen girl style. And then some guy is picking up old needle from trash can to be able to shoot in vein. Pity? Excitement? .. .women..

I've seen it happen, too. Nice, ambitious, intelligent, middle-class girl meets shit-on-legs fucktard and ends up pregnant, homeless, addicted and miserable. Too common a story to even consider. Humans are stupid.

I think it is the 'danger'. I seem to remember to have read that women (not all of them obviously) are attracted to men that portray risky behaviour. There would be an evolutionary explanation for this, but at the moment it's a bit fusy in my mind. If this is the case, then it might be that women who are attracted to this kind of junkies do have an over-expression of the tendency to like men who have a risky/dangerous lifestyle. Obviously, in this case, it would work counterproductive, since it doesn't ensure them to have healthy strong children. This, though, is nothing new when it comes to evolutionary processes. What works in one situation, doesn't necessarily is a good idea in another one. Also, over expression of certain tendencies can indeed lead to totally unproductive results. Some cases of paedophilia, for example, may be a simple over expression of the liking of younger girls/women of most men. In the case of paedophilia, this of course would be counterproductive as well, from the mans point of view. Because, all morals aside, he engages in sex (which equals energy and thus food) with a female which won't give him offspring.

RyanWreck

#96
Here's a nice, full, 80's expose on Satanism. You have to love how ridiculous people took "satanism" in the 80's.

http://videosift.com/video/The-Occult-Experience-absurd-80s-paranoia


Does anyone have any of the better exposes that Geraldo did in the 80's? Like his own take on satanism titled "Feast of the Beast" or some of his many looks at child abuse? Here is a nice clip (featuring a clip of Boyd Rice) from his talk show that dealt with "Satanism":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQot5f8dZlI

Or the very popular series on Willowbrook, a place apparently filled with naked retarded children running around in the dark and living in "horrific" conditions while being abused and eating shitty oatmeal.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3920052/hell-on-earth

Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: Ashmonger on September 24, 2010, 05:30:04 PMI seem to remember to have read that women (not all of them obviously) are attracted to men that portray risky behaviour. There would be an evolutionary explanation for this, but at the moment it's a bit fusy in my mind. If this is the case, then it might be that women who are attracted to this kind of junkies do have an over-expression of the tendency to like men who have a risky/dangerous lifestyle. Obviously, in this case, it would work counterproductive, since it doesn't ensure them to have healthy strong children. This, though, is nothing new when it comes to evolutionary processes. What works in one situation, doesn't necessarily is a good idea in another one.

I get what you mean. The difference is that despite millennia of evolution we are now living in conditions opposite of those that developed those instincts in the first place. We don't have to hunt for food, so there is no need to risk, but the instincts remain. The instincts seem to remain as some kind of "pleasure principle", whereby the thrills an individual human organism gets, from taking drugs or fucking someone who takes drugs, are too instinctive to be considered by the individual (who, in a lot of cases, is too stupid to look at themselves anyway).
At least, that's how I see it.
Shikata ga nai.

Ashmonger

I think that's indeed a way you can see it. Quite some of those instinctual reactions are totally out of place now (can't exactly think of other examples right now), but they just don't evolve, despite the new environment, because the change of environment we live in has gone way too fast on an evolutionary scale, which works over thousands of years.

bitewerksMTB

So what's the deal w/Reindeerspotting? Trailer just looks like typical club kids i.e. nothing special so why document them or is it b/c of the location? I assume that's Finland?

Jaakko V.

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Quote from: bitewerksMTB on September 28, 2010, 02:36:20 AM
So what's the deal w/Reindeerspotting? Trailer just looks like typical club kids i.e. nothing special so why document them or is it b/c of the location? I assume that's Finland?

I think it is partially because of the location (a small town in Northern Finland quite near the Arctic Circle), and partially because the material is somewhat 'authentic'. Captured by one of the junkies with a hand held camera, it wasn't originally intended to be a proper documentary but was compiled into a movie years later from the original footage. For many Finns this offers the only way to actually see any 'real junkies' as our country is still rather untainted by their presence on the quotidian street level (although not so in East Helsinki etc. I guess?).

FreakAnimalFinland

9TO5 DAYS IN PORN dvd
2010 release of Strand Releasing. I guess this has been done some years ago, though? They spent couple years making it. First getting to know with people, then shooting something with them, returning few months later and so on. This might be kind of rare cases of porn document without big moral agenda. No focus on how much $$ they make, no focus on how many people get damaged, how many are abused, and so on. Of course issues are covered, but basically it is pretty neutral document including some of the more interesting people. There are the usual Sharon Mitchell and Stagliano, but we're fucking lucky that no bullshit Jenna Jameson, no boooooooring Vivid/Wicked or other lesbo labels. None of the old now obsolete companies. No mentioning of any classic are of porn. Simply no need to another feature covering some details of John Holmes and Ron Jeremy.
Basically it's Sasha Gray, Belladonna, Katja Kassin, Audrey Hollander (with mostly his husband Otto in charge of talking. His Supercore movies are pretty good in genre of hc sportfucking) and few others. Belladonna and Sasha Grey are the most interesting characters in general. Most of other girls are so meaningless, they shouldn't have reason to speak on film. Those two girls have ideas and intentions of their own. Well spoken, and doesn't appear to be ruined wrecks. At least at this point.
When its said "uncunt, uncencored, unrated", they should have shown exactly what it's about. They do show girls with cum on their faces, drooling, getting fucked in sets, but all those basically happen from angle which hides the actual HC view. If you're talking about getting throatfucked, double-ass-fucked etc, why choose frame what NEARLY shows it, but doesn't. There would be necessity to do porn document in terms of porn.
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bitewerksMTB

#102
I think I saw it on DiabolikDVD: a dvd of Jamie Gillis talking/answering ?'s from an audience. Check the new releases section.


http://www.diabolikdvd.com/category/Documentary/Jamie-Gillis-~-Summer-of-Sleaze-Live-and-Uncensored-(NTSC-Region-1).html

FreakAnimalFinland

Quote from: Unheard on June 20, 2010, 03:01:22 PM
Born into Brothels: Calcutta's Red Light Kids is a 2004 American documentary film about the children of prostitutes in Sonagachi, Kolkata's red light district. The widely acclaimed film, written and directed by Zana Briski and Ross Kauffman, won a string of accolades including the Academy Award for Documentary Feature in 2004.
Briski, a documentary photographer, went to Kolkata (Calcutta) to photograph prostitutes. While there, she befriended their children and offered to teach the children photography to reciprocate being allowed to photograph their mothers. The children were given cameras so they could learn photography and possibly improve their lives. Much of their work was used in the film, and the filmmakers recorded the classes as well as daily life in the red light district. The children's work was exhibited, and one boy was even sent to a photography conference in Amsterdam. Briski also recorded her efforts to place the children in boarding schools.

I have contact in one movie shop in Finland, and mentioned few titles I would like to take, and this was among them. I didn't even remember that it was such a big film, winning oscar! Well, it seems clear that this thing influenced the finnish photo empowerment photoproject/book Maailman Kaunein Tyttö. When I heard of that, I pre-ordered the signed copy. And didn't know even then, that it was to become one of the most celebrated Finnish photobook of recent times. And like kids with cameras, it also intended to continue as social work project.

Brothel-life is harsh. But film is everything else buy exploitative. There are moments of rough footage of extreme poverty, kids chained in shackles, being beaten up, drug consumption. Verbal fights between dirty whores. Who are the mothers that work with often just curtains separating them from kids. Underage prostitutes, stress and disappointments. But overall feeling is more of joy. Kids using cheap cameras, shoot on color film, capturing amazing photos. Of course there is element of luck and accident - which is basically what most of best photography is. I'm surpriced how bright and thoughtful most of these little kids are, and what kind of remarks they are able to come up with photos.
I generally strongly dislike almost all what has to do anything with India. I have pretty much zero interest. This was decent! Wouldn't go there even if I was paid, though.

Got also, but yet to watch:
Annie Sprinkles HERSTORY OF PORN dvd
SUMMER OF SLEAZE dvd (with J.Gillis), 42nd street sleaze nostalgia. thanks to bitewerk for tip!
ENDLESS ORGY FOR THE GODDESS OF PERVERSION dvd, documentary about camp/grindhouse sleaze.

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bitewerksMTB

"I generally strongly dislike almost all what has to do anything with India. I have pretty much zero interest. "

I'm with you. I hate the place. Seems like a true HELLHOLE. The food is disgusting too.

That docu w/the kids getting cameras. I think I saw that on HBO. Are there any docu's about the bride burnings? Seems like I once saw something about a serial killer in India; killing prostitutes and it was basically ok. Just don't harm a rat, monkey, or cow. Let shit all over everything while running wild...