documentaries

[Pharmakon]

I think the true Dominatrix exists probably more in private relationships than in paid ones... I just think that Sheree in particular was a stupid twat who had no clue what she was talking about.

She seemed like one of those people who go through the motions without really understanding what they're doing. The people who get caught up in the "gear" rather than the actual psychological and physical control. I could say the same about a lot of noise ;)

yeah, the girl with CF who visited was the one who got her nipples pierced. They have a much more extended interview with her, 8 years later (and still alive somehow), and it's pretty interesting. I would definitely recommend the DVD.

[halthan]

I guess this has always been the case of "paid dominatrix". While some men use it as supposedly clever argument that female do have some power in sex industry, and dominance over gender, I think big part of the feminist have always argued that the dominatrix is the actual submissive. The "slave" pays. Slave makes requirements. Slave commands her through the wishes in the role. And she pretends to be master but submits the wishes and will of the "slave". I guess, it's the moment what requires the SNUFF "male supremacy" as soundtrack.
I do think there are dominant females, though. But perhaps in slightly different ways than in professional sex industry.

I used to live with "real" dominatrix" years ago and I can say that real life is bit different than all these dream/wank/lousy-movies

[FreakAnimalFinland]

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Not a real documentary, but mr. Vulpes linked me pretty nice youtube link, interview with author who had book of modern pornography. Just phone interview for radio, not visuals other than book cover as still. He quotes Andreas Dworkin.. I can't recall exactly how it went, but in lines of pornography shows the fabrication of female, but truth about male. Which seems pretty much accurate, as far as I'm concerned.
When the pornographic fantasy world tries to invade into "real world" it seems to have tendencies mentioned above. Of course it does bring question whether the assumed "good female role" is the real one, or maybe just perverted meathole just waiting to blossom, eh eh..

Already long ago bought The Wonderful Horrible Life of Leni Riefenstahl dvd. Still waiting a moment to see it...

[halthan]

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Just wanted to point out that there´s a huge difference between real life and lousy wank-movies


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[bitewerksMTB]

I witnessed a session with Dom & her Slave which was mildly interesting during the action but afterwards I thought it was pretty dumb. Listening to them talk was what ruined it. Basically like a married couple, she just didn't fuck him (Yeah, I know. JUST like a marriage!)

I use to know a woman who did some Dominating  in a few of her relationships= whipping, wrestling, piercing (long before it was mainstream) etc. & she seemed to actually get a intense thrill from the action. Unfortunately, I lost touch with her years ago.

Back on-topic: there's a docu on underage prostitutes in Portland OR on HDNET this coming Tuesday that looks promising...

[FreakAnimalFinland]

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Just wanted to point out that there´s a huge difference between real life and lousy wank-movies

Well, otherwise fine, but the text I wrote was nothing about "wank movies", but about the "real life".

[FreakAnimalFinland]

double post actually... Was mentioned in Darger topic...

Anyone seen multiple documents of Children of God? Perhaps issue to be discussed on Documentaries topic. But it is kind of amusing, that prior to murder/suicide thing, the documentaries involved some very "friendly", almost promotion-like things with just kind of entertaining stories about flirt fishing / whores for god hippie girls turned into alternative religion type of thing. When one of the ultimate victims, Davidito, "hero" of the Story of Davidito book takes revenge & commit suicide and records confessional VHS...  Well, nature of the topics indeed changed. In industrial scene at least Swans and Pain Nail has dealt with the subject matter, but it seems to be quite unknown/forgotten for most of people? Not 100% sure if the Swans is actually about this, but pain nail most certainly.

Those who have no idea, check:
http://xfamily.org/index.php/Story_of_Davidito

and especially the video clips in end.

Narrator: 20/20 also asked Richard about "My Little Fish." That's the chapter in the cult publication which shows children in sexual poses with each other and with adults.
Richard: It's just a... it's a piece of educational material and we've learned many things through the years of childcare, taking care of children... It's actually fun to watch a child in... in this case, experience life.
Narrator: Dr. Margaret Singer is a psychologist and cult expert.
Reporter: How does that strike you as a statement from the father?
Singer: What he was saying, 'experience life,' shows a mother orally copulating a little boy and um, that's his opinion about what would usually in the United States be regarded as sexual abuse of a child.

And compared to past when those couple industrial albums came out (10-20 years ago) that referred to this, now is so damn easy to find material. As simple as go to youtube to check out even private VHS tapes sent to David Berg by cult members. It becomes quite bizarre, when step mother, father and son send the happy greetings and talk about how they have "shared eachother" and travel all those exotic countries with spreading gospel.

[Litharge]

"The Bridge":

http://www.thebridge-themovie.com/new/index.html

Interesting and informative.

[Unheard]

Born into Brothels: Calcutta's Red Light Kids is a 2004 American documentary film about the children of prostitutes in Sonagachi, Kolkata's red light district. The widely acclaimed film, written and directed by Zana Briski and Ross Kauffman, won a string of accolades including the Academy Award for Documentary Feature in 2004.
Briski, a documentary photographer, went to Kolkata (Calcutta) to photograph prostitutes. While there, she befriended their children and offered to teach the children photography to reciprocate being allowed to photograph their mothers. The children were given cameras so they could learn photography and possibly improve their lives. Much of their work was used in the film, and the filmmakers recorded the classes as well as daily life in the red light district. The children's work was exhibited, and one boy was even sent to a photography conference in Amsterdam. Briski also recorded her efforts to place the children in boarding schools.



A documentary, The Gift, by filmmaker Louise Hogarth is a timely investigation into a fascinating phenomenon -- the eroticization of deliberate HIV infection -- that shines a balanced yet uncompromising flashlight on the effectiveness of HIV prevention strategies and the mixed messages that continue to dangerously fuel a psychologically complex and potentially deadly game . Evenly presented yet unapologetically honest, Hogarth's film wades through very tricky and fragile political waters without being preachy or judgmental.



With the end of his marriage, 43-year-old filmmaker Dennis O'Rourke is trying to understand how love can be simultaneously banal and profound. He comes to Bangkok, the fantasy mecca of exotic sex and painless love for Western men. When he meets a Thai prostitute he decides make a film about her.

The "Good Woman" of the story is Aoi. In Thai, her name means "sugar cane" or "sweet" -- not her real name, but the one she uses. She works as a prostitute, catering to the male tourists who crowd the girlie bars of Patpong.

Starting from this worst-possible condition their relationship is recorded: its evolution from fake sexual intimacy to collusion in the process of making the film and, finally to friendship and a kind of love.

[tisbor]

Good Woman Of Bangkok is great , i never watched the other two

[tiny_tove]

All three are very good, especially The Gift (still grateful to Unheard for introducing me to that flick).

We were catlking about the Italian lead years.

This is an interesting summery, with some imprecision regarding the "right wing" involvment especially in the second part of the problems.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3117tension_italy.html

[Strömkarlen]

All three are very good, especially The Gift (still grateful to Unheard for introducing me to that flick).

We were catlking about the Italian lead years.

This is an interesting summery, with some imprecision regarding the "right wing" involvment especially in the second part of the problems.

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3117tension_italy.html

Thanks! All info involving Gladio/Years of Lead/P2/P26/Stay behind is very much appreciated here at Casa Masthugget.
One quick glance raises one question though: is P2 the new Illuminati? A bunch of more or less stable person have them pinned down as the arch enemy to whatever they hold dear.

[tiny_tove]

they did in practice what all sort of mumbojumbo conspiracy sects have been accused of.

Consider that at the moment Italy fits 100% the "democratic rebirth" program outlined by Licio Gelli & co. and he is still around as a bird although he had his dirty fingers in everything dodgy happening in Italian.

I think you should consider learning Italian since there is a shitload of stuff regarding this obsession of yours ;)

[tisbor]

I remember Gelli donated part of his archive to his town museum , so you're welcome to visit Tuscany anytime.
Of course he kept the best stuff for himself !

[HongKongGoolagong]

Anyone seen multiple documents of Children of God? Perhaps issue to be discussed on Documentaries topic. But it is kind of amusing, that prior to murder/suicide thing, the documentaries involved some very "friendly", almost promotion-like things with just kind of entertaining stories about flirt fishing / whores for god hippie girls turned into alternative religion type of thing. When one of the ultimate victims, Davidito, "hero" of the Story of Davidito book takes revenge & commit suicide and records confessional VHS...  Well, nature of the topics indeed changed.

Many other second generation members were trying to tell their stories before Rodriguez's actions. See http://archive.xfamily.org/www.movingon.org/abuse.asp.html - the cult have always been very good at evading the law and covering up past actions. The xfamily site has some amazing material on there.

Some of my favourite documentaries:

Capturing The Friedmans
Stevie
A Hole In My Second Heart (excellent bonus 'making of' feature on a a Moodyson DVD - much better than the actual film!)