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In my opinion, possibly best document related to industrial, PREDICTIONS OF FIRE, about Laibach and NSK. With English subtitles. Curiously Finnish TV has produced Finnish version where narration was in Finnish language. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAvtlvswkgwhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmmM6hz4Ncg&NR=1and 6 more parts you can follow by yourself On topic of "old fashioned state art": Triumph Of Will with english subtitles. Sometimes worshipped as best female director of 30's, and amazing showcase of advanced film making. Whatever you may feel of politics of 3rd reich, the monumental architechture, strength of symbols & organisation is art. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPAxaFxjiDkThe controversial German filmmaker Leni Riefenstahl. Her later career included very professional photographic documentary of african tribes. Now special edition collectors books sold by Taschen. Blood In The Face. Documentary of US right wing extremists, but the curious thing is to put your OPERATION CLEANSWEAP "Power hungry" LP (Tesco) on turntable and notice that about all the samples come from this one document. Level of absurdity at some points goes on artistic level. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_vFc46hrI |
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Andrew McIntosh
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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 03:54:10 AM » |
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http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/guys-and-dolls/"For some people, finding a partner in life can be difficult. For others, it's almost impossible. Ten years ago a small factory in California began making an alternative partner. Each is tailor-made to suit every taste. There are now 3,000 'real dolls' across the world, providing some owners with the love and companionship that real women cannot."
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"Unless suffering is the direct and immediate object of life, our existence must entirely fail of its aim." - Schopenhauer.
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Andrew McIntosh
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 03:58:18 AM » |
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Blood In The Face. Documentary of US right wing extremists, but the curious thing is to put your OPERATION CLEANSWEAP "Power hungry" LP (Tesco) on turntable and notice that about all the samples come from this one document. Level of absurdity at some points goes on artistic level. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK_vFc46hrIAlso a book tie-in published by Thunder Mouth Press (no longer operating, I believe). |
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"Unless suffering is the direct and immediate object of life, our existence must entirely fail of its aim." - Schopenhauer.
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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 10:05:52 AM » |
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yeah, book is great. I got it from local library back in 1997, and its been used. "It's time for old fashioned american justice!" poster, I recall might have used on Genocide Organ video or some other images. I had that framed on my wall for years. Man hanging from a tree, as sign of justice, is always inspiring thing.
I think the book gives much more darker and serious look about the "scene". You read the articles, and get the image of pretty rough stuff. And you watch the document, and it doesn't take long to get the flashbacks of your domestic heroes. Posturing in full uniforms babbling some quite strange ideas you know can never attract wanted mass movement behind them.
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Andrew McIntosh
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 12:05:02 PM » |
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It's pretty dated, though. Be interesting to know what the state of play is in the US now, particularly with Obama in charge. Usually, when the more overt right wing parties are in power they tend to suck up a lot of the usual rightist extremists, who loose momentum on the fring. When the less overt, more moderate parties are in, it gives fuel to the extreme rightists. I'll be very surprised if there's no build up at the moment of white supremacists in the US at the moment. On the other hand - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Yrqr8-UQ1Q- something else I've been getting a few samples from. |
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"Unless suffering is the direct and immediate object of life, our existence must entirely fail of its aim." - Schopenhauer.
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 10:23:17 PM » |
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SICK: The Life & Death of Bob Flanagan, Supermasochist 1997
Pretty ok film. Still would recommend to start w/ Supermasochist book.
Sheree Rose one mean mama. Its rare to have genuine sadist (straight) woman. If I remember right Sheree was in abusive relationship before Bob. it was her time to be the punisher. Have seen this only once at film festival Helsinki late 90s. Have to get dvd.
Eleczema has used Flanagan samples.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 10:36:23 PM » |
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BLOOD IN THE FACE. Yeah I recorded it to vhs when it came from Finnish TV. I do remember on tv-section at paper there was line that this film makes European neo-Nazis look very clever comparing their US comrades. Heh.. That blood in the face theory is hilarious, the man slapping himself to face. "when you slap a nigger they face wont turn red.." at same time there was another classic shown at Finnish TV: SIEG HEIL SUOMI trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYKQYJlNxMU |
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FreakAnimalFinland
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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 01:05:15 PM » |
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well, slapping isn't really the meaning. Myth is, that because only whites can blush, only they feel shame, and therefore only they are human. Others would be just closer to animals with their morals for example.
I think one good document about NOISE CULTURE is the dvd "PEOPLE WHO MAKE NOISE". I have seriously watched it twice. It is amazing documentary about certain moment in Portland (US) noise scene. In a way, you simply can worship the extreme goofiness of veterans like SMEGMA, but also I can tell, that if you happen to have any company whatsoever while watching this, simply prepare for stomach muscle aching bursts of laughter. It is not funny all the time, but it is, a lot of time.
There is good stuff there too, but most of all extremely funny. Mostly unintentionally.
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« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 02:25:58 PM » |
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It is the US noise scenes aswer to Bill and Ted. Like, totally awsome, dude...
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Först när du blottar strupen ska du få nåd, ditt as...
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Andrew McIntosh
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« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 12:01:48 AM » |
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http://www.ohmrecords.no/16ohm/160hm.htmGood but not great. The accompanying cd is worth having, though, especially the "Norwegian Noise Orchestra". I would have preferred one or two of the full, live concerts as extras.
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« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2009, 08:04:21 PM » |
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got that releases somewhere in my shelves waiting. Got it couple years ago and looks good, but still waiting. DVD's are like noise boxes. You get them, but time it takes to go through one, makes them pile up...
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« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2009, 08:07:37 PM » |
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That being said, there has still been some talk about maybe making documentary of Finnish noise/PE. And do it professionally. Would have friend who studies for TV broadcast / document / movie assistent or whatever thing it is, and access for pro equipment and necessity to do some good projects. The angle would have to be thought. Would it be relaxed look on these normal guys doing strange sounds, or intentionally "mythical" look of pretty anonymous characters with all those nasty things what happens in Finnish noise shows/releases/atmosphere.
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« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2009, 09:27:58 PM » |
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"Just hold the damn camera still and take it from there." As my DP (director of photography and not, well you know) use to say. I just don't know how many people that are suppose to be professionals who have missed that very easy rule. It is very hard to edit material that is all over the place with no thought behind it.
I would rather see somebody doing a serious film about people doing their art (for lack of a better word). If somebody was interested in doing that I would be interest in having a go at finding financing for it. I've been producing documentaries since 2003. It won't be easy but friends of mine once got money to do a film about japnoise by playing Pain Jerk really loud to a bunch of commissioning editors. In the end they made a film about Tokyo instead.
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« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 04:13:45 PM » |
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there has still been some talk about maybe making documentary of Finnish noise/PE. And do it professionally. sounds nice. there have been a few live shows that would definetly install jealosy in foreign folks. bizarre uproar and gelsomina at the warehouse in mellunmäki. pasi doing a show that lasts seven minutes with his gear on top of barrels and pexi shaking that pipe in front of people( didnt know him at this point and I was pretty sure somebody gets to taste that thing). a great excuse to put together a few different kinds of shows. dont know about shooting nerds drinking coffee and hanging out in the internet but it would be something special to see them creating in their "studios". and interviews obviously need to be in finnish with subtitles. im sure freak animal himself has a ton of archival footage that would sweaten the package even more... |
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Andrew McIntosh
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 10:51:41 PM » |
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Not sure if this would qualify, but I wanted to plug this anyway - http://www.youtube.com/user/Lamronormal- interviews I've done with Aust. sound fuckers. Mostly just holding the damn camera and taking it from there, with the odd bit of editing to keep things moving. Also live clips of local acts. |
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