TRUE CRIME & RELATED

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Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on October 29, 2012, 11:10:47 PM
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/blog/2012/09/21/jury-convicts-man-for-orally-raping-his-baby-to-death/index.html

QuoteDeuman told police that he went out for a cigarette and when he returned to their mobile home, he found the baby lying on the floor unconscious, not breathing, bleeding from the nose, with a used condom in her mouth.

I, for one, would want to have been there when he told them that. This fellow's reception in prison is going to be legendary, even in Hell.
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Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 07, 2012, 05:32:16 AM
The supposed ballet roses/Dutroux style UK elite paedo/torture rings in childrens' homes which have broken in the wake of the Savile case:

"They have talked of psychopaths marking children with Stanley knifes to show "ownership". They tell of parties where children were "passed around" the men. They speak of golf course car parks being the scenes for child abuse after an 18 hole round.
And they have named powerful people – some of them household names – who abused children with impunity."

http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2012/11/10-days-that-shook-my-world

"It was almost like pass the parcel, I knew a few boys who were marked up, like a stamp in the post office, I know one lad ... he had to go off to hospital. He had tremendous problems."
The former resident told the programme about other physical evidence of sexual abuse: "The state of them, they were quite obviously extremely upset - some of them quite marked around the face and body ... cut quite badly around the arms and chest area."

http://www.channel4.com/news/exclusive-eyewitness-saw-thatcher-aide-take-boys-to-abuse

And a nice video of the Prime Minister's face when this was first mentioned in Parliament: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMC1HxjpQu0

Strange times in the UK for sure.

It will be interesting to see what happens... on one hand I am reminded of the ritual satanic abuse-scare and other pedophile panics in history that turned out to be basically nothing, on the other hand from what I've seen (haven't looked into it that much), the Dutroux case looks like there's definitely been things omitted from the official version. Even if I don't buy into the whole David Icke brainwash-program-theory, it's not so hard to imagine there being cover-ups given that 1) the rich and powerful can obviously be pedophiles as much (probably moreso) as anybody, and 2) all pedophiles will probably use any means available to prevent it from getting out.

HongKongGoolagong

Quote from: tiny_tove on November 07, 2012, 09:40:51 AM
Apparently, Savile was questioned for the Yorkshire ripper case
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4631199/Police-quizzed-Savile-on-ripper-murders.html
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 06, 2012, 04:16:26 PM
Savile+Sutcliffe= tnt

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4629105/peter-sutcliffe-claims-jimmy-savile-is-innocent.html



When I dealt with Peter personally over 'Shergar' (his original title for the painting is Making Friends) album cover art in 2003/4 I noticed he had those smiley faces in his signature and handwriting just like Jimmy did. Your links to Sun stories tiny_tove make me remember just what a huge dirt file Murdoch/Newscorp had on not only Savile but presumably also the old politicians and rings who are coming down like a house of cards in the UK now. "Shame makes the world go round" as Morrissey sang.

Quote from: hsv on November 07, 2012, 10:50:10 AM
It will be interesting to see what happens... on one hand I am reminded of the ritual satanic abuse-scare and other pedophile panics in history that turned out to be basically nothing, on the other hand from what I've seen (haven't looked into it that much), the Dutroux case looks like there's definitely been things omitted from the official version. Even if I don't buy into the whole David Icke brainwash-program-theory, it's not so hard to imagine there being cover-ups given that 1) the rich and powerful can obviously be pedophiles as much (probably moreso) as anybody, and 2) all pedophiles will probably use any means available to prevent it from getting out.

I think the idea of all this is that it is (or at least used to be) easier to control someone, politically and/or financially, if you happen to have some photographed or videotaped evidence of them acting in illegal, immoral and shameful sexual ways.

tiny_tove

totally agree.
I love reading the sun for pure exploitation value and the idea that this is one of the world's most read newspaper make the value increase :)))

Look at the "connection" points in this article... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4633112/What-does-ripper-know-about-savile.html
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HongKongGoolagong

Quote from: tiny_tove on November 08, 2012, 09:29:45 AM
totally agree.
I love reading the sun for pure exploitation value and the idea that this is one of the world's most read newspaper make the value increase :)))

Well this one just published is fucking beautiful and pretty funny too - http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4634859/jimmy-saviles-plea-to-get-sex-for-yorkshire-ripper.html - and the related 'hint-hint' stories below about their other files. The most base tabloids like this so often reveal to the careful and attuned reader more than serious newspapers dare to. I like some of the very crass US tabloids too - they are generally almost 100% correct about the UK Royal Family!

The UK Paedogeddon of 2012 is largely Murdoch's revenge, I am sure.



Andrew McIntosh

Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 09, 2012, 04:40:25 AMThe UK Paedogeddon of 2012 is largely Murdoch's revenge, I am sure.

Considering the scalps are coming from the BBC so far, quite likely.
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tiny_tove

I have always have been perversely convinced that the falldown of Murdoch and Berlusconi is part of an underground war deriving from the competition between Mediaset and Sky -and other stuff.
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Quote from: Andrew McIntosh on November 13, 2012, 05:25:29 AM
Quote from: HongKongGoolagong on November 09, 2012, 04:40:25 AMThe UK Paedogeddon of 2012 is largely Murdoch's revenge, I am sure.

Considering the scalps are coming from the BBC so far, quite likely.

I think after the arrests of so many of his ex-staff and presumably the secret deals he'd made with Parliament and Police being betrayed he's now just going for causing as much trouble here as possible - Rupert Murdoch presents Anarchy in the UK, heh.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/4643137/MP-Sir-Cyril-Smith-dramatically-unmasked-as-paedo-in-Commons.html

Note continual insinuations about the Royals throughout all this.

Strömkarlen

Quote from: tiny_tove on November 13, 2012, 09:52:35 AM
I have always have been perversely convinced that the falldown of Murdoch and Berlusconi is part of an underground war deriving from the competition between Mediaset and Sky -and other stuff.


Please do elaborate!


Andrew McIntosh

The other side of class war - posh versus posh. Easy to forget they have factions too.
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tiny_tove

Quote from: Strömkarlen on November 14, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on November 13, 2012, 09:52:35 AM
I have always have been perversely convinced that the falldown of Murdoch and Berlusconi is part of an underground war deriving from the competition between Mediaset and Sky -and other stuff.


Please do elaborate!



well not to much to elaborate, difficult matter.
the two groups (sky and mediaset) have been fighting against each other for the ladership of rights of satellite TV, that has been quite big here. consider that all italy is being forced to pass through the new digital transmissions, even if most Italian still carry on with old TVs. so this means that "free broadcasters" are showing always less material and if you want to have decent programs you must turn to satellites, etc.

the two main groups have been backstabbing each other for this leadership in the market, nothing new, and it sounds a bit weird that at the peak of this both Berlusconi and the Murdoch group get into any sort of scandal, exatly in the same moment.

These are just assumptions of a damaged brain of course, but I tend to not believe in large scale coincidences.
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