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Black_Angkar
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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2012, 08:13:08 AM »

Comics is the most appreciated form of culture for me, and it has been for as long as I can remember. The easy access to "adult comics" via second hand shops was an excellent way to experience transgressive culture at an early formative age. So I've grown up with a keen interest in both mainstream and alternbative comics. I have probably spent more money on graphic novels and comics than I have on any of my other major interests, including music and film. In fact i like it so much I only really dislike syndicated comedy stuff...

The access to good anthology magazines from the late eighties and early nineties gave quite a broad spectrum of styles.

I'd say my personal favorites are

The classic proto-Vertigo writers and titles like Grant Morrison (the Invisibles and the Filth being his finest, but also New X-men, 7 soldiers of Victory, Zenith and Doom Patrol being almost perfect), Alan Moore (V for Vendetta and Swamp Thing being my favs, of the late stuff I'd say Promethea. Not so keen on Watchmen though), Hellblazer in most incarnations (the original Delano run being the best, followed by Mike Carey and parts of Garth Ennis run, especially Dangerous Habits and the one where a demon possesses Prince Charles), Milligans "Shade the changing man" was also fantastic most of the way through, too bad most of it remains uncollected. Too bad his take on Hellblazer has been a real underachiever, just like his incredibly boring X-men stuff.

Warren Ellis - I think Transmetropolitan is quite fun, though I like his "Silent City" the best. Planetary was good (and the art was excellent). I also enjoyed his early work on the Authority, before he left and it slowly degenerated into shit.

On the other hand I can't stand Preacher. I never understood what people see in it. Silly, tedious bullshit where everything just pushes too far to be "badass" until it just becomes unbelievably ridiculous, and not in a fun satirical way but just... Perhaps I should give it another read, as I went through it all about ten years ago and never looked back. Maybe I could get into it this time (and I really don't like Dillons illustrations. I don't think he's bad, he's talented indeed but I just don't find it enjoyable. it's like manara, skilled but he only manages a couple of sets of faces, boring. Good at drawing jaws being blown away though).

European sci-fi and art comics(the genre of true masters); with Phillipe Druillet as my absolute no one, followed by other classics - Moebius, Caza and Bilal. Liberatore/Tamburini. Adamov/Cothias. Nazario.

American alternative comics have also influenced me a lot, especially S Clay Wilson (he's a god!), Julie Doucet and Jaime Hernandez Locas, a soapopera with just the right mix of surrealism, social realism, sex and slapstick to make it perfect. Always preferred him before his brother though I've understood many are more fond of Gilbert. Michael Manning is also an excellent artist, perhaps not storywise, but his artwork is fantastic. 

My guilty pleasure no one is superhero comics, despite it being quite crappy most of the time. I got into comics reading Claremonts X-men in the eighties and his mix of soap and generally pessimistic stories (everything was going quite bad all the time) and the pseudofetishist details really made an impact at that young age. I never quite let go of it, though most of it IS horrible.
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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2012, 08:19:14 AM »

After reading some Gaiman, Hellblazer & other Vertigo stuff ten years ago, I rediscovered the whole deal with graphic novels recently. Got some Jodorowsky stuff (Technopriests and the Incal) at the library - even though the manuscript is oversimplified and obvious, the whole visionary aspects behind the storylines are huge.

Yes, the INCAL is his masterpiece I suppose. New age space opera slapstick. Reading it makes one wonder how his Dune film would've come out if it hadn't been cancelled. The technopriests was entertaining but not anywhere near the qualities of INCAL. It didn't have Moebius on art to begin with. Have you read his BORGIA with Milo Manara as artist? Unfortunately a huge letdown. Probably due to the BORING qualities of manaras skilled but really unmoving work, which always seem to be standardized (with a few exceptions).
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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2012, 08:25:18 AM »

Being a teenager in the 80's was great because we had magazines like Epix, Pox and Galago in Sweden.

Yes, Horst Schröder is one of the big cultural heroes in Sweden, his relentless attitude to publishing well outise his own comfort zone (and sometimes taste) put him in a lot of trouble as the unholy alliance of rightwing christan conservatives, leftwing radical feminists and media monopolist capitalists managed to destroy the best finest era in swedish comics publishing.
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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2012, 08:27:04 AM »

Has anyone read the CROSSED FAMILY VALUES or CROSSED PSYCHOPATH comics? F.V. is available as a book with all 6 issues. Kind of curious about checking these out based on the violent gory covers.

Drawings are not always the best, but both stories are very very good (and better in my opinion than Ennis' first episode, wich featured some impressive ultra violent scenes, but sounded like walking dead with less intelligent dialogues).
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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2012, 03:26:54 PM »

Don't know if it's been mentioned here before but I remember enjoying the Hard Boiled mini-series, by Frank Miller and Geof Darrow, in high school. Lots of super detailed city shots, cyber punk visuals, ultraviolence. That kind of thing. And a Blade Runner inspired story.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Boiled_%28comics%29

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« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2012, 04:38:39 PM »

Don't know if it's been mentioned here before but I remember enjoying the Hard Boiled mini-series, by Frank Miller and Geof Darrow, in high school. Lots of super detailed city shots, cyber punk visuals, ultraviolence. That kind of thing. And a Blade Runner inspired story.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Boiled_%28comics%29



It's great, especially the street scenes.
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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2012, 05:36:39 PM »

dont think i saw this mentioned yet. when i was a kid, FAUST: love of the damned, was definitely one of my favorites. extreme violence, dealings with satan, graphic sex, what more could a pre-teen want!? i still have some original issues, but they are far away buried in boxes at my parents house. i have a few issues signed actually. met Vigil/Quinn at a comic-con when i was 13, walked the issues to the tables. the guys just looked at me dumbfounded, asked "how did you get these?! What awful parent bought this filth for you! dont you know this stuff will ruin your brain" then they laughed, signed them, and directed me to keep on reading!
i recently searched and came up with an RS link for issues #1-#13 which is pretty much the entire series (minus 2 issues). so if this cover art grabs you (how could it not!) by all means, search it out.

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« Reply #52 on: May 19, 2013, 03:47:12 PM »

The new Animal Man comics are surprisingly great; the artwork is unlike anything you might expect from a DC superhero series.
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« Reply #53 on: May 19, 2013, 11:25:17 PM »

The new Animal Man comics are surprisingly great; the artwork is unlike anything you might expect from a DC superhero series.

I read on Wikipedia the book was relaunched in 2011, is that the one you're referring to? Does it stand up to Grant Morrison's Animal Man? I am a huge fan of that whole series, including the meta-story stuff, but even before he really gets into that I think the character is very well written. Things like the archetypal field theory turning a pretty dumb concept for a superhero into something a lot more interesting. Is this angle maintained in the new book?
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« Reply #54 on: May 20, 2013, 04:03:06 PM »

The new Animal Man comics are surprisingly great; the artwork is unlike anything you might expect from a DC superhero series.

I read on Wikipedia the book was relaunched in 2011, is that the one you're referring to? Does it stand up to Grant Morrison's Animal Man? I am a huge fan of that whole series, including the meta-story stuff, but even before he really gets into that I think the character is very well written. Things like the archetypal field theory turning a pretty dumb concept for a superhero into something a lot more interesting. Is this angle maintained in the new book?

I've read the beginning of the 2011 relaunch and that's it, so I can't tell you how it compares to the older ones (although I do plan on reading them). It is very well written, though, and does in my opinion manage to avoid much of the cheese associated with Animal Man's superhero. I think the standing out factor for me is the art however -- it adds a great sort of surreal aspect to the story.
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« Reply #55 on: June 17, 2013, 02:59:36 PM »

Started reading Locke & Key by Joe Hill and Gabriel Rodriguez and it's really good, very addicting. I've read the first 3 books and each one is better than the last. To my understanding there are 5 collected in volumes out now, while the single issues of volume 6 are wrapping up and then there will be a volume/series seven, then it's over.

Anyway the whole thing is a nice mix Lovecraft themes and traditional horror, the artwork is very nice and the writing is good. Highly recommended.

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« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2013, 10:32:30 PM »

That Locke & Key looks interesting, gotta check it out.

Anyone from Finland remember a comic called Liha kohtaa metallin? I think it appeared in Like-uutiset, but has it ever been compiled to a single volume?
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« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2013, 08:46:05 PM »

"I have to take the point of view of the characters. I have to be Daddy and Clarissa to write this joke. There is a meanness to the strip, but I don’t want it to be me being mean anymore. It’s no longer about my mean humor. I’ve decided to let Clarissa have her say." - Jason Yungbluth, Deep Fried Comics.

All the Clarissa strips to date: http://zyguy.imgur.com/clarissa_comics#0
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« Reply #58 on: February 20, 2014, 01:27:23 PM »

Joan Cornellá. True fucked up genius:
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« Reply #59 on: February 20, 2014, 05:37:27 PM »

Old comics I wrote scripts for are currently being reprinted in Spain.

http://www.aletaediciones.com/Galerias/bonelli/mystere/martin_mystere.htm#Maxi%20Martin%20Myst%C3%A8re%203

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