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« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2011, 02:03:21 PM »

a little tribute to Hanatarash i did for an italian zine last year :






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« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2011, 04:06:31 AM »

that's fucking great!
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 03:24:47 PM »

Foreskin man

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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2011, 04:48:51 AM »

Tisbor, is it you the responsible for the artwork on the Stalker / DDI split LP? The drawing style is really similar, and being DDI an italian band...
Great comix, by the way!

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I have been a fan of the comics since an early age. Probably my first obsession. But I never gave a fuck for superheros. I even have some of the landmarks of the genre, but just don´t care about them.

Brazil have a strong tradition of underground / "alternative" comic authors. Unfortunately most of them are completely unknown overseas. I could mention:

- Marcatti, who was also responsible for some of the cover artworks for hardcore band Ratos de Porao.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oGg-5rClQbo/RnY4PSvPwwI/AAAAAAAABqY/1adcSnv_LJ4/s1600-h/Marcatti+13.jpg
 
- Allan Sieber started publishing on zines and recently has done some major work, even for big newspapers, but still produces some great stories, specially when dealing with religion.
http://www2.uol.com.br/allansieber/bifaland_jesus.htm
 
- Fabio Zimbres is one of the most demented, "love-him-or-hate-him" comic artists in Brazil and also has a good production as a painter.
http://www.tonto.com.br/fzblog/cartum.jpg

- Law Tissot is a veteran on brazilian comic zines. His work has a lot of influences from the post-punk, German expressionism and movies like Liquid Sky.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cXmkn38rIjc/TUSroZ99NfI/AAAAAAAAFIU/Ze9i56MiFjg/s1600/law4.jpg

- Lourenço Mutarelli is the most strange case within brazilian comic authors. He used to draw black and white comics full of details, with morbid, depressing and bizarre (but humorous, in a twisted way) plots. He did comix mainly to get distrated from various psychological problems he had. Due to the amount of details of his work, his production was very low and he used to have lot of financial problems. A couple years ago he wrote and released a book - not a comic book - and it received a lot of attention from people outside of the comic community. From that point on, he wrote a lot of books, some of his stories has been adapted to movies and theatre and he became somekind of "cult celebrity". It´s a shame that he´s not doing comics anymore, though. A rare coloured work of him:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-i_XgwioI5Do/Tan0Jo8gP-I/AAAAAAAAAW0/3oB7i2_P0Y0/s1600/blue+1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-y-boPSdFYmQ/Tan0srFwuyI/AAAAAAAAAW4/hhINmcAe6EM/s1600/blue+2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yWyK6pAnoP4/Tan1HhqxmOI/AAAAAAAAAW8/v2YI3STq8cQ/s1600/blue+3.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j5hLcEdzINs/Tan1bKMgLuI/AAAAAAAAAXA/Qv_yiR9D4qk/s1600/blue+4.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jhLPNH8avlo/Tan1xLpEKtI/AAAAAAAAAXE/5m5erYUarG8/s1600/blue+5.jpg
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« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2011, 08:32:40 AM »

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Ugra: no it's not me, glad you like my hanatarash comic though
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« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2011, 04:32:48 PM »

There has been couple different topics. I think one with avantgarde/alternative comics, porn comics,.. and this at least?
Anyways, just finished CHANCE IN HELL by Gilbert Hernandez. Anyone who known something about comics since 80's, probably knows Hernandez brothers? 2007 release, obscure story in 120 b/w pages. Junkyard kids, pimps, s/m sessions, violence,... but after all, it's nothing to do with "shocks" or low-interest junk. Well made story, where all things have the purpose. One could think that this would make good movie, which would be most of all drama with crime twist.

The way he draws, probably doesn't interest so much those who seek for elegant "realistic" things or complex artistic look. But as story teller, mandatory guy. I regret I didn't buy the other book that looked to belong same "series".
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« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2011, 08:17:34 AM »

Old School Underground Comix!

 I would highly recommend checking out Zap, Slow Death, Fantagor, Death Rattle, Tales from the Leather Nun, and of course Weirdo if your at all into 60's and 70's counterculture weirdness.  They go in and out of print periodically it seems, but it is fairly easy to find less than mint used copies on Ebay for a decent price.

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« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2011, 01:08:50 PM »

For the last few months I've been especially preoccupied collecting works of Alejandro Jodorowsky (The Incal, Technopriests, Alef-Thau, Metabarons, The White Lama, Le Cœur Couronné, Borgia, ...).
Other stuff like The Invisibles from Grant Morrison through which I became obsessed by the idea of launching a hypersigil in comic-form, various Alan Moore works (Promethea, Watchmen, From Hell, V for Vendetta) also drove me completely mad. My passion for the technique has been escalating to the point when I decided to start writing a comic myself.
some previews:


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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2011, 11:34:35 AM »




Just finished reading this one, and I can happily recommend it to you sleazebags. Canadian artist Chester Brown tells about his experiences with prostitutes who don't like being called prostitutes, i.e. escort girls, as a part of his everyday life. From the beginning, it's all very pragmatic -- Chester does not want to be in a relationship BUT Chester wants to have sex with girls. After doing the math, he comes to the conclusion that a $200 date every two weeks would be roughly what he spent just to be in a relationship (with no guarantee of sex).

Brown kept track of when he dated each girl, and they are all accounted for in this book. The monotony of the every-two-weeks-dating is reflected in the art, and since Brown decided to exclude most personal details about the girls, even to the point of not even showing faces, you don't get any of the more intimate side of the john experience. Sexually, Brown comes off as very basic -- blowjobs + fucking, and that's all there is. So, the various encounters with the girls are not what you remember most after reading the book.



* TERB = Toronto Escort Review Board

Throughout the book, Chester discusses various legal/moral aspects of prostitution. He is arguing against the concept of romantic love etc etc, and you do get a lot of talking heads and word balloons... Brown's style is stripped down but effective, I'd say. Brown is 100% clear that he wants prostitution (at least in Canada) to be decriminalized rather than legalized and regulated. In the book, he mainly discusses this with his artist pals Joe Matt and Seth, and his ex-girlfriend.

The last part of the book is a pretty hefty collection of writing on prostitution, as well as a ton of notes explaining minute details of the story. Some of the notes are great, like when explaining that yes, he really did say "I'd like to have vaginal intercourse with you" on his first pay-date, ha ha! Even Seth contributes with his notes after having read the comic. I found this comment of his to be pretty spot on, if you have followed the careers of Brown and Joe Matt (who has never made any secret of being a porn hound)...



All in all I found Paying for it to be courageous, flawed in some ways, but very much worth reading if you are at all interested in probing an analytical john's mind.
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2011, 07:00:58 PM »

Ordered! Thanks for recommendation!

Joe Matt is sometimes great, sometimes extremely annoying. At the best he is in his porn obsessive compulsive masturbation confessions, heh... At worst he is in going through crybaby relationships with some ex-girlfriends.

Lately buying several good things of various styles of comics.
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« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2011, 07:07:56 PM »

Got it today, and already went through first 50 pages, and its full of things one could quote. Of course, I had 2-3 albums of him before, and already the 1989 Ed Clown comic (I would guess is mentioned already in one of comic topics?) he proved to be absolute genius.

Normally, I don't give a fuck about any superhero comics. I have pretty much zero of them. I know there is the new wave of well written and grim superhero stuff, but my collection pretty much is just Watchmen and V like Vendetta? Perhaps very few occasional things. But god damn, this Hank Fletcher! It's not so much that it's "superhero comics", but it dates back couple years in turn of 30's/40's, and is filled with mindblowing ultra nonsense stories with wildest characters, drawn in clumsy and weird ways. And like the real artists he is, abusive character found dead, frozen, in NYC park bench.

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Hanks was active in comics from a period of 1939 to 1941 (though as early as 1911 he described himself as a cartoonist[2]), writing and drawing stories for Fiction House and Fox Features Syndicate. His creations include Stardust the Super Wizard, Tabu the Wizard of the Jungle, and Fantomah (one of the first female superheroes, predating Wonder Woman).
A cult following has developed around Hanks' work in recent years. His stories and art have been reprinted in the comics anthology Raw, on the dust jacket of Men of Tomorrow: Geeks, Gangsters, and the Birth of the Comic Book (2004 ISBN 978-0465036578) and in the books Art Out Of Time (2006 ISBN 0810958384) and Supermen!: The First Wave Of Comic Book Heroes 1939-1941 (2009 ISBN 1560979712), and is the subject of the book I Shall Destroy All The Civilized Planets: The Fantastic Comics Of Fletcher Hanks (2007, ISBN 1560978392) from Fantagraphics edited by Paul Karasik. A second volume You Shall Die by Your Own Evil Creation! (June 2009, ISBN 1606991604) reprints the rest of his works.[3]
[edit]Personal life

Hanks was the son of William Hanks, a minister, and Alice Fletcher Hanks, the daughter of English immigrants — his parents married c.1885[4]. Fletcher himself married Margaret c.1912[5]. Little is known of Hanks's life outside comics; the main source being an interview by Paul Karasik with Fletcher Hanks Junior c.2006[6]. According to his son, Hanks was an abusive father and spouse, as well as being an alcoholic. Hanks earned some income by drawing murals in the homes of the rich and allegedly abandoned his family around 1930 (the U.S. census return for that year shows him described as an artist, living with his wife, Margaret, widowed father, William, and his children Douglas, Alma, Fletcher Jr, and William[7]). He died in February 1976; his frozen body was found by police on a park bench in New York City.


Collection is titled "I Shall Destroy All the Civilized Planets", which alone, is great. Yet, check out one page with the type of material it is:



The plots of the evil men are always grand scale. The language used is pure gold. The punishments carried out by "super wizard stardust" is as morbid as man can think. Like delivering wrongdoers into prison that freezes them for eternity, but allows your brain to work and think about your punishment. It's mix of utterly childish and utterly surreal, not to mention the graphic works is totally beyond.
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2011, 07:27:57 AM »

There has been couple different topics. I think one with avantgarde/alternative comics, porn comics,.. and this at least?
Anyways, just finished CHANCE IN HELL by Gilbert Hernandez. Anyone who known something about comics since 80's, probably knows Hernandez brothers? 2007 release, obscure story in 120 b/w pages. Junkyard kids, pimps, s/m sessions, violence,... but after all, it's nothing to do with "shocks" or low-interest junk. Well made story, where all things have the purpose. One could think that this would make good movie, which would be most of all drama with crime twist.

The way he draws, probably doesn't interest so much those who seek for elegant "realistic" things or complex artistic look. But as story teller, mandatory guy. I regret I didn't buy the other book that looked to belong same "series".

Same series, LOVE FROM THE SHADOWS, brilliant! Fantagraphics 2011 release, hallucinatory, violent, and sexy crime thriller. Sex change, weird siblings, scam artists, big tits,...  very very weird, very very good. I'm sure allows several readings, since first impression is more like: what?!?
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2011, 01:06:19 PM »

Moebius and Jodorowsky ''The Incal Classic Collection''
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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2011, 03:57:13 AM »

I recall parts of that from when I used to read "Heavy Metal" years ago. I managed to get part two of a three part book release of the series. Imaginative, quite fast paced, although typical space opera in parts (that, in itself, is okay). I thought it also owed a lot to Dune.
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« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2011, 11:35:31 AM »

Excellent in depth article about the Maus companion and several controversies related to the original books.
A must have for any comic fan.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/oct/23/art-spiegelman-maus-25th-anniversary?INTCMP=SRCH
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