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Title: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 21, 2012, 04:05:55 PM
I can't be the only person here who enjoys wallowing in the output of the most insane conspiracy theorists around today. Read Robert Anton Wilson in my teens but I guess the interest in the real fringe material started when I obtained a copy of 'Trance Formation of America' by Cathy O'Brien during the 90s - a woman who claimed she and her daughter were used as programmed sex slaves for the elite.

Two of my favourites:

http://www.dataasylum.com/index.html - he's a little vague about the details of who is doing it but this provides a startling unified explanation of all the strangeness in the world today - also works as a film list!

Emily Gyde - innumerable websites dating back to 2006, just Google the name - if taken as one long book her writings must surely be one of the most ambitious works of semi-autobiography ever attempted. Try http://www.royalarchcrumbles.blogspot.com as an intriguing entry point.

NB in the interests of sanity: these links are provided for entertainment purposes only.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on June 21, 2012, 04:14:27 PM
big fan of david icke's writings. too stupid, but absolutely entertaining.

Loved the Jon Ronson's documentary series "Them"...

In Italy we have this moron on Tv named Adam Kadmon who is spreading absolutely demented material mixing several theories.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: ConcreteMascara on June 21, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
from the BioAPI site.

"Early in the video Lady Gaga kisses some guy. On his right shoulder is a tattoo of a hornet which apparently is symbolic of the devil in Jewish culture or something. Then later on in the movie after some dancing (transforming?) they flash the picture to the right, her head is a telephone. Telephone = BioAPI."

Oh man, that's classic shit. TELEPHONE=BioAPI ! ! ! ! 

Watch out!


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: Niko on June 21, 2012, 05:27:53 PM
Rauni-Leena Luukkanen-Kilde is probably the most famous finnish conspiracy theory "lunatic"? Pretty basic stuff, microchips inserted into humans through swine flu vaccinations, Breivik was controlled by microchip etc.. Shame that there is not much about her in english.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 21, 2012, 11:08:56 PM
It's pretty easy to dismiss David Icke as his books are so badly sourced and reprint the ravings of the crazies he thinks are good sources.

However tonight I was at a lecture by Professor Dawn Archer who's a highly regarded and very mainstream academic dealing with journalism, framing of news stories and corpus linguistics - she used the 'problem/reaction/solution' paradigm popularised by Icke 20 years ago while addressing the language of power and how masses are manipulated. Pretty cool that she also had huge blow-up headlines of Karen Matthews, Rose West, Jon Venables and Myra Hindley in the lecture theatre to illustrate the 'Othering' procedure used in journalism, especially News International.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: Jordan on June 22, 2012, 12:29:54 AM
I've been in to that sort of stuff since also reading Robert Anton Wilson, Kerry Wendell Thornley, Subgenius stuff, etc. in junior high school but for some reason I can never remember details about any of the stuff I've read. It just exits my brain as soon as I'm done reading it. I've only recently come to understand KWT's "Step-Brother" thing, despite having read his explanations over and over again.

I have the same problem with horribly bad science-fiction novels. I really enjoy reading them, but when I'm finished one, don't ask for a detailed account of what I just read.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on June 22, 2012, 01:15:48 AM
big fan of david icke's writings. too stupid, but absolutely entertaining.

I remember a friend of mine, someone I once knew from the anarchist scene, talking to me over the phone about this bloke's "theories" without actually naming him. He referred to what he called "the invisible, humanoid, shape-shifting reptiles who live in the centre of the Earth". When I asked him point blank if he believed that guff he said "I wont say it's true and I wont say it's not true". He used to do a lot of drugs.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: Mikerdeath on June 22, 2012, 05:29:03 AM
Lecture I attended from Dr.Steven Jones fired from Brown university for publishing about his "findings" regarding 9/11 breaking the laws of physics, more about "nanothermite powder" found in rubble and constantly referring to "Ground Zero" as a "Crime Scene." Interesting to say the least. No doubt in my mind that there were some sketchy things happening on that day regardless of who believes what. The person who filmed this video was somehow unaware of the camera squeaking.
part1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4P_P8kWuQ8
part2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLHYcexpwxk&feature=relmfu
part3:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLG4W6iHBWI&feature=relmfu
As it was a full lecture, it goes on and on to 11 parts.



Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 22, 2012, 02:46:44 PM
From the radical anti-psychiatry/critical psychiatry field: http://www.peter-lehmann-publishing.com/books/beyond-belief.pdf - see page 30 onwards, strategies for coping with beliefs about alien abduction, spiritual experiences and telepathy. The author Tamasin Knight is a medical doctor.

A very bizarre and unintentionally funny interview with an alien abductee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGKiHj5qvn0


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: martialgodmask on June 22, 2012, 02:55:06 PM
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories but certainly ties in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWTrYB-ERA&feature=related

Possible explanations include tectonic plate shifting, UFOs, CERN and HAARP to name a few - the latter I find very interesting having read more into it. Having shown the videos to my wife, we both agreed that the kind of sounds mirror what we ourselves have heard late at night whilst having a cigarette in the garden but have been unable to explain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
http://www.haarp.net/


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: martialgodmask on June 22, 2012, 03:19:29 PM
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories but certainly ties in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEWTrYB-ERA&feature=related

Possible explanations include tectonic plate shifting, UFOs, CERN and HAARP to name a few - the latter I find very interesting having read more into it. Having shown the videos to my wife, we both agreed that the kind of sounds mirror what we ourselves have heard late at night whilst having a cigarette in the garden but have been unable to explain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
http://www.haarp.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG9Mjx-Ca-M&feature=related

A better video actually, more focused on the prophetic side of the coin.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 22, 2012, 04:01:24 PM
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories

Well of course some theories may well be true. There is a whole lot we are not made aware of especially in the military world - see the patch gallery at http://www.american-buddha.com/icouldtellyou.1.htm and following pages.

A thread for both entertaining crazies and obscure information then.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: martialgodmask on June 22, 2012, 04:17:31 PM
Not sure whether to start a separate thread for this as isn't directly about "crackpot" theories

Well of course some theories may well be true. There is a whole lot we are not made aware of especially in the military world - see the patch gallery at http://www.american-buddha.com/icouldtellyou.1.htm and following pages.

A thread for both entertaining crazies and obscure information then.

Very interesting link, thank you for that.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on June 22, 2012, 04:31:57 PM
regarding unconventional war -or at least its bright side - a must to read:

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Qz7BKte8aNM/SwF-1Vx91TI/AAAAAAAAA5A/qSGnQrA676U/s1600/the-men-who-stare-at-goats-book.jpg)

and the related documentaries featuring extensive material on the glorious FIRST EARTH BATTALLION, new age applied to warfare

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2009/11/2/1257174557027/Jim-Channons-First-Earth--001.jpg)


the movie was quite lame



Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 22, 2012, 05:46:41 PM
https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/dutroux/Belgian_X_dossiers_victims_and_witnesses.htm for one of the more plausible pieces of research on a very controversial topic. The sheer amount of trouble the author has had struggling to keep the site online speaks for itself.

The Men Who Stare At Goats is a wonderful read. The mysterious "Ron" referred to in there by Uri Geller and others has been very recently exposed as the CIA's Ron Pandolfi. http://www.starpod.org/news/1001151.htm

"Pay it all back"


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Mikerdeath on June 23, 2012, 05:04:43 AM
haarpresearchandapplications.pdf

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:L2DSmAcs8l8J:trinityatierra.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/haarpresearchandapplications.pdf+the+uses+of+haarp&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESj_XjsiQzDFRbASHJY5YRLgwHYmQ99qJ4tGh7uQjUvC-jnwk9Q9mpOe-6xVFChirChbCSt5yfgVmbkQvZDbWR0NsM_Fjm473-fuOLMB14XqLF4dGypM-YMRM71R09tXbYDqedRH&sig=AHIEtbRnzHkWal_VDl72abgJIXee7ZnHig&pli=1

Thanks for the patch gallery link.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bitewerksMTB on June 24, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
Concerning the Dutroux/Victims: what kind of trouble has he had keeping it online?


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on June 24, 2012, 11:52:19 AM
Concerning the Dutroux/Victims: what kind of trouble has he had keeping it online?

See http://wikispooks.com/wiki/ISGP_Archive


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Crazies
Post by: Mikerdeath on September 13, 2012, 02:33:52 AM
Lecture I attended from Dr.Steven Jones fired from Brown university for publishing about his "findings" regarding 9/11 breaking the laws of physics, more about "nanothermite powder" found in rubble and constantly referring to "Ground Zero" as a "Crime Scene." Interesting to say the least. No doubt in my mind that there were some sketchy things happening on that day regardless of who believes what.

https://www.google.com/search?q=bbc+9%2F11+cancer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

http://openchannel.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/11/13809524-evidence-piles-up-that-bush-administration-got-many-pre-911-warnings?lite

Not trying to re-hash this topic, im not a person who follows conspiracy theories, I just want to follow up with my previous post with two articles.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on September 13, 2012, 07:10:11 AM
9/11 is already like the JFK assassination - you could spend the rest of your life finding weird anomalies and driving yourself nuts.

The youtube preview of a supposed full-length film insulting Islam which has coincided with attacks on American embassies in Egypt and Libya has been in the news. And after reading this article, the only thread it could go in here is conspiracy theories:

http://www.onthemedia.org/blogs/on-the-media/2012/sep/12/religious-references-innocence-muslims-dubbed/


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bitewerksMTB on September 14, 2012, 09:33:46 PM
Popular Mechanics magazine & National Geographic did excellant pieces debunking the 9/11 conspiracy theories.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on September 15, 2012, 01:38:05 AM
Someone should do a documentary about "Professor" Griff. The bloke's hilarious. Have a look at one of his many rants on YouTube.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on January 06, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
RIP Andrew Rowland aka infamous conspiracy messageboard insurrectionist Anders7777, whose thread on Jimmy Savile at David Icke has topped four million views and whose writings got godlikeproductions.com hacked by an intelligence agency a number of years ago.

Obituaries: http://lunaticoutpost.com/Topic-For-those-who-knew-the-poster-called-Anders?page=1
http://www.proxywhore.com/invboard/index.php?showtopic=271311&st=0
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=232417


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Jordan on January 06, 2013, 09:44:31 PM
Checked out that Jimmy Saville thread a while ago, only made it through about ten pages though. I'll revisit it and check out those other links as well. Pretty great stuff.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bitewerksMTB on January 06, 2013, 10:41:27 PM
I don't remember where I saw it but there's a theory than the CT shooter was part of a sleeper cell/psywarfare deal in order to get more gun control measures passed by the Government.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Duncan on January 06, 2013, 11:25:52 PM
This seems like a nice place for my first post. Hi.

Yeah it looks like Obama is trying to get Americans to disarm.  Because it is obvious that dismantling gun law in the only country to be so completely obsessed with their right to own and use them is the final step towards rendering the whole of humankind defenseless and susceptible to a brutal imposition of totalitarian power.  Never mind how much of the rest of the world already copes without household firearms, or the amount of other weaponry that can be accessed or made.

A staggering lack of critical thinking is the true undoing of most conspiracy theory, not the oppression of some hidden hand.  A palpable culture seems to have developed around assuming some kind of structural evil must be behind every single world event yet none of the creative energy put into the supposed uncovering of this stuff ever appears to be channeled into questioning whether issues that effect life in America really translate into a fucking thing outside of that country.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on January 22, 2013, 10:53:58 PM
http://leavingalexjonestown.blogspot.co.uk/ is an excellent critical resource on Jones. What a buffoon he is.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Cementimental on January 24, 2013, 04:29:39 AM
Rigorous Intuition (http://rigint.blogspot.co.uk for the blog, no new articles for ages but some good reading. Messageboard is at http://rigorousintuition.ca with a handful of hardcore posters still active with varying degrees of interestingess/nuttiness) was a favorite of mine when I was still into this stuff back in the day (before it was cool hah) but I'm SO SICK of the 99.999...% garbage that is the conspiracy theory internet scene now, I burned out with too many utterly futile arguments with moon hoax and 9/11 guys over the years and in the process pretty much debunked myself on every popular theory.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on January 24, 2013, 05:06:39 AM
http://davefromqueens2.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/theresa-duncan-story-solved.html is a good article about the dangerous effect that the material rigint deals with had on a fragile person.

With wild-eyed conspiracy crazy sites, often the ARGs or wondering what the fuck you have found are the only fun part.There are a lot of strange and unexplained anomalies made by pranksters and professional trolls. Try searching for the T-Cell Gondii Network or TAPSCEO if you think your computer is safe or if you don't care anyway.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Jordan on January 24, 2013, 05:17:19 AM
Truthers definitely are the worst. I like that old time Masonic/Illuminati mind control stuf, but in the eighteen or so years that I've been reading that kind of stuff, not much has ever stuck with me, though maybe that's PART OF THEIR PLOY!

I guess I like the idea of that kind of stuff a lot more than the actual material.

I'm more into collecting xeroxed flyers/wall posters/communiques that schizophrenic people post around town than any sort of "official" conspiracy theories, but it tends to be more just whacky Christianity than conspiracy per se. I just got some crazy booklets  by a christian on welfare who was mad that his friend wouldn't lend him any "dead trees" to get his haircut, and how his barber was really mad that he had to wait until the end of the month. Apparently, "between tomorrow she would not be "spending them" (i.e. USING THEM TO TAKE OPTIMISTIC ADVANTAGE OF OTHERS SLAVERY) in the meantime anyway!"
Mostly just a lot of ranting about "dead trees sitting in their banks", which he also calls "wooden devils taken out of a GD GREED MACHINE" (there are atms here called TD Green Machines) mixed with biblical verse and horribly drawn pictures of who i can only assume is jesus. Four stapled booklets that are mostly repetitive, but feature different aspects of how money is ruining his life.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Cementimental on January 24, 2013, 05:59:19 PM
I'm more into collecting xeroxed flyers/wall posters/communiques that schizophrenic people post around town than any sort of "official" conspiracy theories,
There's some pretty intense ones in my area, this guy who runs some semblance of a barber's shop flyposts in-depth screeds over the shop front and around the neighborhood:
http://everyoneindalstonisweird.com/post/8085553289/ive-been-meaning-to-post-these-for-ages-these

I've seen this lady about town too:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/34712_426073124130358_1060874417_n.jpg)


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Jordan on February 04, 2013, 09:23:10 AM
Having been a Discordian (and Subgenii) for most of my life, I find Kerry Wendell Thornley's all out crazy conspiracy theory stuff kind of sad, although, under the circumstances, I can surely understand what led him there. At times he was an intelligent, funny, and charming man, even long after his complete disconnect with reality. He could also be a jerk, for instance, he banished his son from his deathbedside because he wasn't laughing at his jokes, and ended up pretty miserably, especially at the very end.

Anyway, I've been rereading the Confession to Conspiracy to Assassinate JFK thing that Sondra London put together, and thought I'd post it here. I really didn't like what she was doing with him, found it very exploitive, but I could never really piece together the story from the scattered issues of The Decadent Worker that I had, and other sources. Pretty crazy stuff. All that stuff inspired me to read The Report Of The Warren Commission as a young teen, and I think that it's probably pretty accurate, though I'll admit that it's probably pretty likely that Oswald was crazy and put up to it by Mafioso types. I have a schizophrenic friend who believed that he was a Russian Mafia/KGB agent who got pretty close with some HAs and did some crazy things for them, and I'm pretty sure that's a pretty big thing in organized crime, you know, to get crazy people to do things so if they testify against them, they'll be pretty easy to discredit. Anyway, the "book" or whatever is here: http://sondralondon.com/tales/confess/index.htm

There's also this: http://totse2.com/totse/en/conspiracy/institutional_analysis/thornlet.html - which deals with his belief that he was the product of Nazi Vril society breeding programs. Incidentally, TOTSE first hacker groups I got interested in in the post-Commodore 64 days (which ran pretty late for me) and they provided me with all sorts of wonderful information about phreaking, much of which still worked in the small town with a local telephone service provider who hadn't modernized at all that I grew up in. It's also how I found information for one of my stepfathers on how to build a still, which resulted in the deaths and blindings of a friends relatives two towns over. Great stuff.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on February 04, 2013, 05:57:26 PM
Sondra London being exploitative again - well there's a surprise.

Kerry Thornley's ramblings are pretty sad, although Norman Mailer in his excellent and definitive book on Lee Harvey Oswald "Oswald's Tale" treats Thornley's testimony on LHO with respect and seriousness - like anyone who looks at the JFK case, Mailer is himself bewildered and the book has no real conclusion, just presents all sorts of mysterious facts on his life.

Is there a possibility Discordianism can open one up to dark and hidden currents? In Robert Anton Wilson's "The Cosmic Trigger" a series of strange coincidences, synchronicities and low-level murky magic lead horrifyingly yet it seems inevitably to the murder of the author's daughter. A very sad story. While I carry a POEE Pope card in my wallet myself which always gives cops a laugh, I don't trust that crazy bitch Eris one bit. Hell I'd trust "Bob" above her!


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: H.H*D.H on February 05, 2013, 10:46:40 PM
'We have just received incredible expirience from one of our listeners, that in date was attacked by demonic reptilian entities'

 http://youtu.be/BX7sUkgsK3k


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Jordan on February 11, 2013, 06:47:46 AM
Is there a possibility Discordianism can open one up to dark and hidden currents? In Robert Anton Wilson's "The Cosmic Trigger" a series of strange coincidences, synchronicities and low-level murky magic lead horrifyingly yet it seems inevitably to the murder of the author's daughter. A very sad story. While I carry a POEE Pope card in my wallet myself which always gives cops a laugh, I don't trust that crazy bitch Eris one bit. Hell I'd trust "Bob" above her!

Having taken my Discordianism fairly semi-seriously in my younger days, I must admit that all of my experiences in that realm, via discordian meditation and general "surfin' on synchronicity" kind of stuff were pretty all around positive, except for perhaps precipitating an even further disconnect with reality, which I guess is kind of good and bad.

I wouldn't trust "Bob" for shit. I had a lot of big fights on the Subgenius IRC channel many years ago with Ivan Stang, and I can't stand most of the people in charge of the church nowadays. At least 5-6 years ago, I guy I knew vaguely from my time in Hamilton was a pretty high up on account of doing web design for them. I love the stuff from the early eighties, which is unfortunately way before my time, and I've been an official member since '96 or so, but yeah, it's been a pretty dismal scene forever. I almost attended an X-Day Drill once, but some unfortunate events popped up and got in the way.  In the end, I'm pretty glad I ended up missing it.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on March 01, 2013, 06:11:59 AM
I'd forgotten this one but unbelievably it's still being linked to by people who find it plausible and David Icke has included it as an appendix in one of his recent books. The story seems to be that this text was written by someone with an extremely dark and mischievous sense of humour who then sent it to a group of Australian conspiratards who had a bee in their bonnet about Crowley and the OTO ten years ago.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=126&contentid=6566&page=2 - here are the best bits:

Any form of bizarre sexual congress is explored and encouraged because atrophied tastes need stronger stimulation. Children, the elderly, the mentally retarded and desperate are used at satanic ceremonies throughout the world. The left hand path caters for all tastes and responds to all needs.

In Australia and throughout what used to be the Soviet Union, Downs Syndrome pornography is an expanding market and an acquired taste.

Approximately one new D.V.D. – like The Gangbang of Mary Mongoloid Series (1998-2001) or Downer Syndrome Follies I-II (2001-2003) - hits the underground market every couple of months.


The Order of the Toilet is a traditional left hand path initiatory body whose members adhere to the largely neglected latrine doctrines of the Vama Marga. Order members are encouraged to engage in Bathroom practices as often as possible and no less than daily. The teachings and ordeals of the Outer O.o.t.T. are divided into the categories of the Champagne and the Caviar initiations.

The Order of the Toilet seeks to inculcate within its membership and the wider world, a cultivated love for and re-establishment of the hitherto secret magick of the night-soil tradition of the Western Sinister current.


Priceless. I think most of this Satanic planet 'engages in Bathroom practises' daily. The prankster in question also managed to further wind up highly weird US conspiracy theorist Henry Makow - http://www.henrymakow.com/satanist_insider.html Satanist Hints Oz PM is "Toilet Vampiress" is a headline straight from the Illuminatus trilogy.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on March 15, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
not 100% conspiracy theory, but analyzes mass hysteria rsulting fron non-scientific activism.


Windfarm sickness spreads by word of mouth, Australian study finds

Health complaints from people living around turbines shown to be psychological effect of anti-wind lobby making people worry

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Windfarms do not cause illness, other than the alarm spread by opponents, Australian study finds
Windfarms do not cause illness, other than the alarm spread by opponents, an Australian study has found. Photograph: Danny Lawson/PA

Sickness being attributed to wind turbines is more likely to have been caused by people getting alarmed at the health warnings circulated by activists, an Australian study has found.

Complaints of illness were far more prevalent in communities targeted by anti-windfarm groups, said the report's author, Simon Chapman, professor of public health at Sydney University. His report concludes that illnesses being blamed on windfarms are more than likely caused by the psychological effect of suggestions that the turbines make people sick, rather than by the turbines themselves.
 
"If windfarms were intrinsically unhealthy or dangerous in some way, we would expect to see complaints applying to all of them, but in fact there is a large number where there have been no complaints at all," Chapman said.
 
The report, which is the first study of the history of complaints about windfarms in Australia, found that 63% had never been subject to noise or health complaints. In the state of Western Australia, where there are 13 windfarms, there have been no complaints.
 
The study shows that the majority of complaints (68%) have come from residents near five windfarms that have been heavily targeted by opponent groups. The report says more than 80% of complaints about health and noise began after 2009 when the groups "began to add health concerns to their wider opposition".
 
"In the preceding years health or noise complaints were rare despite large and small turbined wind farms having operated for many years," it says.
 
According to Chapman, when wind farms started being built in Australia about 20 years ago some of the anti-wind lobby was driven by people who simply did not like the look of them.
 
"Then in about 2009 things started ramping up and these people discovered if you started saying it was a health problem, a lot more people would sit up and pay attention. It's essentially a sociological phenomenon," he said.
 
Giving the illness a name like "wind turbine syndrome" and "vibro-acoustic disease" had been a key feature in its spread, Chapman said. He accepted that some people genuinely felt ill but "where you set up an expectation in people that something in their environment is noxious, that can translate into an expression of symptoms".
 
The findings run against the claims of the Waubra Foundation, a national group that opposes windfarms and says serious medical conditions have been identified in people living, working or visiting within six miles (10km) of wind turbine developments. The group says the onset of conditions including sleep deprivation, hypertension, heart attacks and depression correspond directly with the operation of the windfarms.

Waubra chief executive officer, Sarah Laurie says illnesses resulting from exposure to windfarms is "an inconvenient truth".

"There's been an attitude that the people who are getting sick are collateral damage," she said.

"People are not getting sick because someone tells them they're going to become unwell. They're waking up in the middle of the night and suffering from sleep deprivation because something is waking them up."

Laurie, who trained as a rural GP, says it's important that more research is done so we have a better understanding of exactly what's going on.

"No evidence doesn't mean no problem. It means the evidence hasn't been collected because the research hasn't been done," she said.

Chapman said that if wind farms did genuinely make people ill there would by now be a large body of medical evidence that would preclude putting them near inhabited areas. Eighteen reviews of the research literature on wind turbines and health published since 2003 had all reached the broad conclusion that there was very little evidence they were directly harmful to health.
 
Chapman cited a recent New Zealand study that exposed 60 healthy volunteers to both real and fake low-frequency noise, similar to what is produced by wind turbines and is sometimes known as infrasound. Half of the volunteers were shown television documentaries about health problems associated with wind turbines before they listened to the low-frequency noise; the other half were not. They were then played a mixture of noises. Those who had seen the videos about the adverse affects reported higher levels of symptoms whether exposed to the genuine or fake audio samples.

In spite of results like this, complaints from some living near wind turbines persist. David Mortimer is a beef and cattle farmer in the South Australian of Millicent, 400km south east of Adelaide. Wind turbines were built on his farm in 2004.

"Mostly I've had sleep-related problems," he said. "At night I get a deep rumbling sensation in my head which makes it hard to get to sleep. I also get a pulsing in my heat that does not correlate to my heartbeat. It gives me an acute sense of anxiety and arythmia that goes on for days."

Mortimer said he sleeps well when he's away from the farm, when the silence in his head at night is "absolutely profound".

"As soon as we come back the symptoms reappear," he said. "A lot of people like me are complaining but politicians and wind farm companies are not listening."

An application for 160 new turbines has been approved to be built on his neighbour's property. Seventeen of them will be visible from Mortimer's house and within 3.5kms of his home.



Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bitewerksMTB on April 18, 2013, 08:24:31 PM
Boston Bombings was, of course, by the Government:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=axQtAFtmtVA


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Jordan on April 18, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
And what about the fertilizer plant?


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bitewerksMTB on April 18, 2013, 11:54:53 PM
Anonymous & Alex Jones have different suspects than the FBI:

http://www.infowars.com/breaking-police-confirm-infowars-photos-of-boston-suspects/

http://www.fbi.gov/news/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston/updates-on-investigation-into-multiple-explosions-in-boston

Of course, none of the men in 'Navy SEALS' caps are suspects who, I bet, were at the fertilizer plant too.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on April 19, 2013, 09:53:41 AM
Nah, it was "left wing radical students". Our own Jones has solved the case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYdUHVdd3w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYdUHVdd3w)


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: martialgodmask on April 20, 2013, 12:21:19 AM
http://www.ibtimes.com/4chan-false-flag-conspiracy-theory-predicts-boston-marathon-bombing-arrest-friday-1202073
http://www.ibtimes.com/tamerlan-tsarnaev-death-photo-surfaces-autopsy-picture-reddit-slain-boston-bombing-suspect-no-1

Interestingly for an NSFW image, the second article link it twice I think, maybe they really want it to be seen?


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bitewerksMTB on April 22, 2013, 11:10:29 PM
It's CGI:

https://twitter.com/J_tsarSupport/status/326304209630806016/photo/1


http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/cult-of-tsarnaev/


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on July 19, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Eerie 9/11 premonitions in album artwork:

(http://www.quofataferunt.com/images/stories/11/supertramp-911.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xcUskQ-VRTI/SNCT9wVylwI/AAAAAAAAA2k/W7BLCOa6yP0/s400/600px-TheCoupCoverLarge%2BParty%2BMusic.jpg)

And drive yourself insane by thinking about everything at this gallery: http://s616.photobucket.com/user/cartamandua/library/911%20Coincidences%20and%20Synchronicity%20in%20ART

One they missed was Ramleh 'Be Careful What You Wish For'. Opening track 'The New York Conning Tower', date above Anne Frank cover photo: SEPT 11.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: RyanWreck on August 28, 2013, 06:12:39 PM
"The Israeli Mossad was responsible for the 9/11 hijackers:"

https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=1332210


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Bob on October 22, 2013, 02:34:13 PM

Is Angela Merkel Adolf Hitler's biological daughter ?

http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news501_Merkel.html

Various other web sites and youtibe vids


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on October 23, 2013, 11:02:29 AM
"The Israeli Mossad was responsible for the 9/11 hijackers:"

https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/?viewemailid=1332210


a classic of conspiracy freaks regarding 9/11 is the false claim that all jews working in the buildings were asked to stay home on that day.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on January 13, 2014, 05:11:41 PM
http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/sp_poisoned/sp_poisoned.htm

Founder of Krishna movement poisoned by agents of the illuminati (LOL)

more : http://www.harekrsna.org/


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: yosef666 on January 24, 2014, 11:11:21 PM
http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/sp_poisoned/sp_poisoned.htm

Founder of Krishna movement poisoned by agents of the illuminati (LOL)

more : http://www.harekrsna.org/

The internecine power struggles with the Hare Krsna movement are always incredibly entertaining. I had a (free) subscription to "Back to Praphupada" magazine and it was the best thing to read while taking a nice long shit.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Jordan on October 22, 2014, 06:28:55 AM
http://www.unabombers.com/

Some good stuff there!


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Potier on October 22, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
The Ebola-Hoax or the Ebo-Lie...

http://www.jimstonefreelance.com/ebolie.html


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on November 11, 2014, 09:32:24 AM
https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/large-hadron-collider-exposed-the-stargate-of-shiva/

best conspiracy theory ever!!!


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: TS on November 11, 2014, 01:02:31 PM
Concave earth theory. I've never seen anyone else that believes this, but I'm sure they are many. We live on the inside of the earth, and god is inside a celestial octahedron. The sun is flat. The stars are tiny.

Watching this idiot draw is kind of hypnotizing though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDSS5k-105M


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on November 11, 2014, 01:26:10 PM
Some recent conspiracy loonies are really behind the ball. There's a few stupid "reptilian" vids on YouTube that make a huge deal out of obviously out-of-focus video snippets, claiming them to be "proof" that there are people who are actually lizards. Surprisingly low intelligence even from this mob.

Lately I've been looking at a few Farrakhan videos and finding some interesting sample potential. He's recently banged on about Dianetics, for example. He doesn't seem to mind what he borrows from. What's interesting is there seems to be a lot of Black Americans who are circulating blatantly obvious conspiracy stuff and believing in it. Some interesting conclusions to draw from that I'd say.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Cementimental on November 11, 2014, 03:42:18 PM
https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/large-hadron-collider-exposed-the-stargate-of-shiva/

best conspiracy theory ever!!!


Ha that's superb, thanks for sharing :)


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: l.b. on November 11, 2014, 07:40:08 PM
i have this blog http://oldschoolconspiracytheories.tumblr.com/ (http://oldschoolconspiracytheories.tumblr.com/) that i use to collect old conspiracy theory 'documentaries' and maybe you guys would find something interesting here. it's almost all pre-9/11 stuff, like bill cooper at area 51, MKULTRA mind control, david icke, etc.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Duncan on November 11, 2014, 08:48:54 PM
When I visited Harlem in New York a few years ago, I remember being awestruck by how many street stalls were set up selling NWO/conspiracy theory DVDs - seems like those who were once touting the 5% are now touting the 99%...

Nah, it's just that the sterling work done by Rza and the gang leaves people to move on to other issues :D

https://missiongalacticfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/large-hadron-collider-exposed-the-stargate-of-shiva/

best conspiracy theory ever!!!


Ha that's superb, thanks for sharing :)

This was definitely a beautiful way to start the day.  Love the completely free roving logic of these things and how they always lead to undeniable proof.

LHC = intricate, huge and super-modern science project exhaustively analysed for it's potential to be a contemporary interpretation of ritual technologies arguably employed in ancient civilisations for the purposes of interdimensional travel.

Hindu statues & sanskrit writing in the LHC headquarters = INVOCATIONS TO AID THE MAGJICK

This sort of thing and The Apprentice...Schadenfreude in 2014



Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on November 11, 2014, 09:41:17 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/25/virus-sample-missing-from-galveston-national-laboratory/2018887/

march 2013 a "similar" ebola virus missing at texas lab........


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Leewar on November 12, 2014, 10:35:49 PM
A few years back i once chanced upon a thread on a forum (possibly a charlie manson forum) . I lost around 4 hours reading what i can only describe as the most in depth, total lunatic, mental illness style theory that connected Manson, Elvis and The Beatles, really indepth shit such as "Elvis said cat on 1/3/55, if you add those numbers up and divied them by John lennons shoe size it makes the same number as the exact number of times Sharon tate was stabbed" - this would be accompanied by various links, photo's documents to prove said theory.

It was very, very long.

And sadly i cant find it.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Cementimental on November 13, 2014, 04:11:01 PM
http://vigilantcitizen.com/musicbusiness/never-seen-drawings-made-michael-jackson-hint-mind-control/


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on November 13, 2014, 04:36:40 PM
How many of your favourite porn stars are Beta Kittens (http://hollywoodsubliminals.wordpress.com/project-monarch/sex-kitten/pornstars/)?


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on December 16, 2014, 05:45:00 PM
http://www.linkiesta.it/kubrick-finto-allunaggio-shining

impressive


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on December 16, 2014, 10:30:13 PM
Room 237 have a lot of similar theories about shining


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on December 17, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
"Clue #4: Teeth (Coming soon)"

http://thebeatlesneverexisted.com


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 09, 2015, 11:52:59 AM
Yep, had to be Zionists.

http://truthjihad.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/paris-charlie-hebdo-attack-another.html (http://truthjihad.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/paris-charlie-hebdo-attack-another.html)

http://aanirfan.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/mossad-attacks-paris.html (http://aanirfan.blogspot.com.au/2015/01/mossad-attacks-paris.html)


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Andrew McIntosh on January 23, 2015, 02:31:25 PM
http://nationalreport.net/miley-cyrus-replaced-double-2010/ (http://nationalreport.net/miley-cyrus-replaced-double-2010/)

EDIT - I'm a dick!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Report (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Report)
Feel free to make fun of me.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: tiny_tove on February 10, 2016, 12:16:53 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2016/feb/09/your-government-lies-why-the-x-files-revival-is-just-right-for-our-climate-of-extreme-scepticism?CMP=fb_gu


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: WhiteWarlock on August 14, 2020, 12:45:01 AM
conspire (v.)

late 14c., "aspire or plan maliciously, agree together to commit a criminal or reprehensible act," from Old French conspirer (14c.), from Latin conspirare "to agree, unite, plot," literally "to breathe together," from assimilated form of com "with, together" (see con-) + spirare "to breathe" (see spirit (n.)), perhaps on the notion of "to agree (by spoken oath) to commit a bad act." Or perhaps the notion is "to blow together" musical instruments, i.e., "to sound in unison."

What happens when conspiracy controls & dominates the legal system & all facets of global society?
It becomes powermad.
Make sure to wear your mask & bow to your totalitarian technocrat international click.
We now see the epic levels of absurdity & they still want more power/control.

Yet don't you dare pointing the obvious.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Cementimental on August 14, 2020, 03:30:11 PM
Quote
totalitarian technocrat

Ha "technocrat" we still don't even have a track and trace app here in the UK. :D And every anti-covid measure the government put in comes with a statement from the police saying 'uuuuh yeah but no but we can't and won't ever enforce that thoo?"

Nobody seems to actually want to control anything here, the plan seems to be to make some money on the stock market and wait for a few more inconvenient obsolete workers and non-rich+white people to conveniently die off

So speak for your own police state :D


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Zeno Marx on August 14, 2020, 05:18:08 PM
Ha "technocrat" we still don't even have a track and trace app here in the UK. :D And every anti-covid measure the government put in comes with a statement from the police saying 'uuuuh yeah but no but we can't and won't ever enforce that thoo?"

Nobody seems to actually want to control anything here, the plan seems to be to make some money on the stock market and wait for a few more inconvenient obsolete workers and non-rich+white people to conveniently die off

So speak for your own police state :D
It's depressing to think this is going on worldwide.  I tend to think of the American citizenry as the gullible idiots, but we clearly don't have that market cornered.

and how about those QAnons and Boogaloos.  Georgia (US) is likely to have one in congress, and 20 or so more are on tickets.  All but one are Republicans.  They could feasible have their own little faction in congress.  It's as loony as Scientology and Battlefield Earth type stuff.  They still think Pizzagate is real.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: yosef666 on August 15, 2020, 07:29:04 AM
Ha "technocrat" we still don't even have a track and trace app here in the UK. :D And every anti-covid measure the government put in comes with a statement from the police saying 'uuuuh yeah but no but we can't and won't ever enforce that thoo?"

Nobody seems to actually want to control anything here, the plan seems to be to make some money on the stock market and wait for a few more inconvenient obsolete workers and non-rich+white people to conveniently die off

So speak for your own police state :D
It's depressing to think this is going on worldwide.  I tend to think of the American citizenry as the gullible idiots, but we clearly don't have that market cornered.

and how about those QAnons and Boogaloos.  Georgia (US) is likely to have one in congress, and 20 or so more are on tickets.  All but one are Republicans.  They could feasible have their own little faction in congress.  It's as loony as Scientology and Battlefield Earth type stuff.  They still think Pizzagate is real.

Scientology as  whole backs Trump hard, both the official church & the "freezoners"/independents. Pretty much all leading Scientologists (meaning the real hardcore, the OTVIIs/OTVIIIs, not the name-brand minor celebrities they like to trot out) routinely post QAnon, antivaxxer & similar assorted wingnuttery on their social media. Peas in a pod.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: WhiteWarlock on August 18, 2020, 12:32:55 PM
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Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: WhiteWarlock on August 18, 2020, 12:53:26 PM
(https://www.azquotes.com/image-quotes/Quotation-Voltaire-Those-who-can-make-you-believe-absurdities-can-make-you-30-37-31.jpg)


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Cementimental on August 18, 2020, 03:56:37 PM
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The statement "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" is often falsely attributed to Voltaire, the French Enlightenment philosopher.[26] However, the phrase is believed to originate from an essay by [Kevin] Strom first published in 1993: "All America Must Know the Terror that is Upon Us".

hahah SHOCKED that an image macro 'quote' is fake. Critical thinking and a simple google search before spamming junk fwds-from-grampaw is for leftist marxist losers I guess?


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: yosef666 on August 19, 2020, 06:35:01 PM
Perhaps moving forward we can have discussions here instead of just posting image macros?


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: Bloated Slutbag on August 20, 2020, 10:14:15 AM
The image macros are in fact coded with deeply intense discussions that, unfortunately, you are simply not privy to.


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: AnonMessAgeSage on August 23, 2020, 12:56:28 AM
If you enjoy wacky, reality-shattering SHIT, my personal favorites, among other things, were always http://973-eht-namuh-973.com

http://deathandhell.com


Enjoy.






Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bdr on November 02, 2021, 06:02:42 AM
I watched Godspell the other day.  Towards the beginning all these Jesus Freaks are dancing on a skyscraper in New York City very close to the edge.  It scared me, I was imagining one of them missing a step and falling!  The camera panned out and it turned out to be the World Trade Center!  How in Christ's name did they get up there?  Well I am getting ready to move to New Orleans so I am burning all files having to do with Operation Mindfuck.  I glanced at a reference to a book called "Breaking The Godspell" in one of Robert Anton Wilson's books and looked it up.  It is about how humanity was engineered by extra-terrestrials.  Pretty weird but I want to read it.  The rest of the movie sucked, except that banger track "Day by Day".  Peace!


Title: Re: Conspiracy Theories - including Crazies
Post by: bdr on November 02, 2021, 07:06:01 AM
When you feel sad
Or under a curse
Your life is bad
Your prospects are worse
Your wife is crying
Sighing
And your olive tree is dying
Temples are graying
And teeth are decaying
Credit is weighing your purse
Your mood and your robe
Are both a deep blue
You'd bet that Job
Had nothing on you

Some men are born to live at ease, doing what they please, richer than the bees are in honey
Never growing old, never feeling cold, pulling pots of gold from thin air
The best in every town, best at shaking down, best making mountains of money
They can't take it with them, but what do they care?
They get the center of the meat, cushions on the seat, houses on the street where it's sunny
Summers at the sea, winters warm and free, all of this and we get the rest
But who is the land for, the sun and the sand for?

You guessed, it's all for the
You must never be distressed
Yes, it's all for the
All your arms will be redressed
Yes it's all for the
Someone's got to be oppressed
Yes, it's all for the best!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU)

Pretty surreal, it was being built when this was filmed!