Non-music "industrial/noise-related" releases

Started by Peterson, February 19, 2018, 08:19:01 PM

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Peterson

OK, so the sound collage and sound poetry threads had me thinking that there should be some discussion about non-music (or mostly non-music) releases related to "industrial culture," but that are not typically considered what one might call spoken-word, poetry, or what have you.

Come Organization "documentary" tapes - The New Order "Bradford Red Light District," "Ripper Tape," Charles Manson "Family Interviews" series, "Necrophilia," "Examples of Cannibalism," "No Apparent Motive," and so on. Tapes seem to mostly be radio or TV programs dubbed to cassette sort of like an audiobook, but stuff such as "Examples of Cannibalism" and the sort of "appropriated" MB releases with added WWII Germany-era samples includes some electronics or music as a backdrop. Someone mentioned that VOD should reissue a set of these, which is likely impossible, but would interest me as much as any Whitehouse reissue.

Broken Flag various tapes and portions - Although many are probably familiar with the "Rockwell" tape of infamous early American Nazi Party leader George Lincoln Rockwell ranting over Ramleh electronics, there seem to have been at least a handful of obscure non-music tapes from BF: "The Party Day of Power," "Swastika Command," and so on, among politically-related music cassettes much like Come Org's "Marches" series. Interestingly, cassettes like V/A "Morality" include interview/dialogue snippets such as John Duncan's "Prostitution Tapes." Would definitely be interested in checking out similar compilations from recent years that alternate actual music/noise with dialogue, interviews, speech, and what have you.

Gothenburg Blood Cult has some notoriety for reproducing the above-mentioned Come Org "Necrophilia" tape as it's own release. Also included among some of the actual compilation tapes are little samples and interludes as in the BF tapes above, such as V/A - "Fuck Money, Fuck Life" which ends with a strange unknown track titled "I'm Too Sad To Tell You."

Peter Sotos various works (incl. Whitehouse B-side tracks) - Needs no introduction, but nevertheless: lengthy dialogue, interview, and speech samples concerning only the darker, harder side of sexuality and street/family life. Tracks with Whitehouse usually deal with a larger array of subjects and range from 12 to around 20 minutes, while solo efforts are more focused on specific cases/crimes and are often interspersed with readings from his own writing. This almost doesn't classify, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

Vitrine referential weirdness - seemingly following the influence of all of the above-mentioned, recent US effort Vitrine has put out some things that'd certainly fit in this category: "Masochism" tape which seems to be a collage of creepy poetry recitation, radio news transmissions, and primitive amp noise. "Dedicated To Dominique Venner" seems like a contemporary take on the Rockwell BF tape; clearly noise/music and obviously by the label's head honcho, but more as a background for the samples of speech and interview. Compilations "Map of the Interior" and "Map of the Perimiter" seem to include some unknown, enigmatic voice/sound clips much like the above "Fuck Money, Fuck Life" amidst the usual array of contributors. I would normally dismiss something so pointedly derivative, like the early Emaciator tapes which were all supposed to look like Broken Flag tapes, but there is a more worthy torch to bear with this kind of strange non-music stuff.

Sonic Sadist "Dog Love" tape sort of counts; relies a bit too much on electronics but contains a sufficient amount of extracts from the infamous loop as well as some interviews with Boreman (or whatever her real last name was) on the subject. Taint before Taint! That said, Taint track from V/A "Pornography Hurts" is entirely samples and definitely qualifies, giving Sotos' collages a run for his money. We all know that Taint made some of the best use of samples ever in stuff like Sex Sick, but the ratio of music-to-samples pretty much excludes it.

Now-defunct Sexkrime Arts label once released a collage tape of interviews ("Sensitivity Training") and YouTube postings concerning emotional vulnerability, sexual dysfunction, and so on; apparently also accompanied by a DVDr version which one had to first buy the tape and then write an essay about in order to obtain. Uh, no, thanks. The tape honestly wasn't that interesting nor moving despite the effort that clearly went into compiling it. Too scattered and unfocused to really be afflicting.

Unholy Passions also at one point released one of the Gillis "Walking Toilet Bowls" series as audio-only on tape.

Tape simply titled "Over" from No Visible Scars  is just a testimonial of negative sexual experiences from the person behind the project, accompanied only by a quiet synth drone. I wish there were more releases like that.

Strict's "Kiss" LP features a field recording in a peep show/video booth area. How come more people haven't done this? I would listen to a whole album of those. Still, ratio basically disqualifies it, but worth mentioning in case there are more anonymous public sex act recordings available anywhere else.

So, to those reading, perhaps there's a preexisting thread that could be merged? That which I'm listing here is nearly all I'm aware of, based on what I've heard, heard of, or seen on Discogs. I'm sure there have to be much more examples; I would hope there is similar stuff like this from Open Wound, AWB, Filth & Violence, and so on, but that might just be wishful thinking. Please, contribute! I would really like to see an attempt at list-making sort of like the "Canon of Power Electronics" thread. I am especially interested in more recent stuff that is obscure yet more easily tracked-down.


BTR

I think this is interesting/specific enough to be its own thread, though maybe there is an older one buried.

Breathing Problem - BTK Confession

Waiting on a copy of this. From the label:

"Originally released in 2012 as digital only. 6 years later it seemed appropriate to give it a stand alone physical edition. No music. No backing track. Only the court room testimony and confession of BTK. No entertainment here. For those with a personal interest. limited to 33 copies. comes with a 12 page b&w zine style booklet with images and information."

Peterson

I've heard that recording but not through that release, which sounds great. There is of course also his court statement which is more like a 45 minute awards speech than a typical defense statement and is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard.

BTR

Haven't heard that either, but I'd be curious to do so.

What I enjoy most about this stuff is the way an artist can take something like that and create this personal context for it, be it through the accompanying artwork/zine (BTK confession) or just the act of making it a release in the first place (like the ComOrg stuff, most of which just has generic covers). They way it kind of adds that obsession to the idea of the artist or label.

Quote from: Force Neurotic on February 19, 2018, 10:25:32 PM
I've heard that recording but not through that release, which sounds great. There is of course also his court statement which is more like a 45 minute awards speech than a typical defense statement and is one of the most bizarre things I've ever heard.

Zeno Marx

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Andrew McIntosh

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A release called "Tower" by one Sakura (Takayoshi Kitajima) - nearly sixty minutes of some kind of audio hum/tape hiss with additional mostly unrecognisable sounds, followed by five tracks of silence ranging between seven to nine seconds each. Quiet and peaceful.

EDIT - Vagina Detenta's classic release "Music for the Hashinins". Snarling dog sounds played at slower speeds and layered.

Absurd Cosmos Late Nite. One of Mark Groves projects, featuring his patented deep voice monologues over found music/sound.
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NaturalOrthodoxy

I remember reading about the Broken Flag Rockwell tape in ALAP.

There's an upload on YouTube but seems to be panned entirely in the left ear. That's right up my street though- I'm much more fascinated by extremes of ideology than extremes of sexuality/murder, so any similar releases (political monologues with or without backing electronics) would be great. Good thread, I'll be keeping an eye on this one.

Peterson

I've been looking for the Holy Family Parish "Man & Wife" cassette forever. I remember someone I'm not in touch with anymore sending me MP3s a few years ago, and from that I think it was a dialogue/interview sort of thing with some background drones/noises. Pretty stupid that I deleted it after only one listen, as I've never even come close to finding it again since, copy or files. This sort of weird, intimate stuff really intrigues me.

https://www.discogs.com/Holy-Family-Parish-Man-And-Wife-Husband-And-Wife/release/1633761

Can anyone shed some light on this? Care to sell a copy, rip one for me?

NaturalOrthodoxy

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I may be wrong as I never copped a tape but I think that the Wealth of Abuse "Deviant Report" series was along these lines? Basically clips of people describing traumatic abuse.

EDIT: The Scum F.C "Sex Chat" is the performer prank calling sex lines while performing junk metal noise, tenuous but also related to this thread. In one segment he goes by the name Philip Best. Top bants init

https://antisocialkulturengland.bandcamp.com/album/scum-f-c-sex-chat


hsv

Arv & Miljö has some releases that are mainly taped interviews. I haven't heard those but maybe Baglady can fill in the blanks

collapsedhole

#10
Michael Prime - Priory Gardens - 7", Povertech Industries - sounds of bats feeding. i like this one a lot actually.

Slow Death - cs, Hospital Productions - unprocessed recordings of geiger counter readings. never heard this one but i remember the label billing it as "unlistenable" when it came out.

Sex Angle - cs, Chondritic Sound - soundtrack to the Cosey Fanni-Tutti sex tape. i guess this counts as 'industrial related'...

Satan Place - cs, Hanson / Ecstatic Peace - interviews surrounding the 'acid king' murderer of long island, ricky kasso. always kicked myself for not buying this when it came out and have never seen a copy for sale at a reasonable price.

Euro Trash Bazooka

Maybe stuff from Alexander Korotkov released under the Po.No(I)Za/По.Но.(и)За or Lo.By/Ло.Бы monikers would qualify? I have tapes from each project, the one I'm thinking about in particular ("Dokumentazion" by Po.No(I)Za) is pretty much 45 minutes of non-stop random Russian TV zapping/looping that's processed through tape recorders and sound like a DJ scratching on tapes and making almost cut-up noise with it. Except it's not noise, just micro-snippets of TV extracts. It's almost unbearable, the kind of stuff I would play to make guests who overstay their welcome leave (before, I used to use a 70's Dutch radio jingles LP. Fun but quickly trying for the listener...)

I'm also thinking of material from Kei Yokota's Invader From Mars project. If hearing someone just making noises with his mouth or scraping stuff mindlessly for what seems an eternity appeals to you, then you should go for it. I love everything made by Kei, though.
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Euro Trash Bazooka

Quote from: Force Neurotic on February 23, 2018, 01:38:18 AM

Bazooka, both you mentioned sound indeed unbearable. The way you made use of the first one is pretty ingenious! I gotta find something I can shoo guests away with.

That will be arranged.
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Johann

Quote from: hsv on February 22, 2018, 01:04:18 PM
Arv & Miljö has some releases that are mainly taped interviews. I haven't heard those but maybe Baglady can fill in the blanks

I have two cd-r releases, one is an interview with Johnny Loydn from the PILL years, the other is with Nico. No decerniable manipulation...both are very lofi.

PTM Jim

Having almost the Hospital discography, I can comfortably say the the Slow Death tape mentioned is the most unlistenable thing on the label, if not the most unlistenable thing I've ever heard. A true gem for sure.