Special Interest
October 20, 2017, 07:27:11 AM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
News:
 
   Home   Help Login Register  

Pages: [1]
  Print  
Author Topic: Harsh noise with no amps.  (Read 429 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
Stipsi
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 21



« on: September 20, 2017, 02:10:14 PM »

It s possible for you recording loud harsh noise with pedals/junk metal/synth straight on mixer/d.i/audio cards and don't use amps?
Often I find a lot of troubles doing this (I Don t have possibilities to play loud at my "studio")
Examples of no amps projects but loud are welcome.
Logged
Andrew McIntosh
Overkill user
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1847



« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 02:45:17 PM »

(I Don t have possibilities to play loud at my "studio")

Well, there's your problem. There's no substitute for real volume. If you want to record acoustic materials loud, you're going to have to get a recording device and go to the places where you can record loud. Find your nearest abandoned building or sewer. If you're going to record at home (or wherever your "studio" is), stick with keeping it down. But a tape recorder or cheap digital recorder and a bit of knowledge of your local area might serve you better.

Conversely - take advantage of microphones. One simple and effective thing to do is set up a microphone into your recording gear, turn the input up cunt loud, and crunch some plastic right against it. It's a different sound, very upfront, distorted and with no real depth or air going through it, but it sounds pretty good if you get it right. Contact mics can help. 
Logged

"Unless suffering is the direct and immediate object of life, our existence must entirely fail of it's aim." - Schopenhauer.
Stipsi
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 21



« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 04:08:23 PM »

(I Don t have possibilities to play loud at my "studio")

Well, there's your problem. There's no substitute for real volume. If you want to record acoustic materials loud, you're going to have to get a recording device and go to the places where you can record loud. Find your nearest abandoned building or sewer. If you're going to record at home (or wherever your "studio" is), stick with keeping it down. But a tape recorder or cheap digital recorder and a bit of knowledge of your local area might serve you better.

Conversely - take advantage of microphones. One simple and effective thing to do is set up a microphone into your recording gear, turn the input up cunt loud, and crunch some plastic right against it. It's a different sound, very upfront, distorted and with no real depth or air going through it, but it sounds pretty good if you get it right. Contact mics can help. 
I can play loud only with the earphones and it 's not always safe
Logged
AXNAAR
user
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 146



« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 04:29:11 PM »

(I Don t have possibilities to play loud at my "studio")

Well, there's your problem. There's no substitute for real volume. If you want to record acoustic materials loud, you're going to have to get a recording device and go to the places where you can record loud. Find your nearest abandoned building or sewer. If you're going to record at home (or wherever your "studio" is), stick with keeping it down. But a tape recorder or cheap digital recorder and a bit of knowledge of your local area might serve you better.

Conversely - take advantage of microphones. One simple and effective thing to do is set up a microphone into your recording gear, turn the input up cunt loud, and crunch some plastic right against it. It's a different sound, very upfront, distorted and with no real depth or air going through it, but it sounds pretty good if you get it right. Contact mics can help.  
I can play loud only with the earphones and it 's not always safe

Not always 'safe' - where are you, Anne Frank's house?
You can buy a small practice amp and record at low volumes with high gain for okay results, I've recorded stuff with a baby sleeping in the next room undisturbed this way. There's no substitute for a proper practice space with loud amps though, most towns have a place you can rent by the hour with amps etc included in the price, have a look around.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2017, 04:52:45 PM by AXNAAR » Logged

Duncan
user
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 243


« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2017, 06:09:48 PM »

All of this depends on what methods you're keen on using and whether or not that method is sacred with regards to the end result.

If you're set on just recording takes of jams with the pedals/synth/scrap metals then yeah, you'll struggle getting the best out of things with no amp. Especially where the contact mic'd stuff is concerned. 

If your concern, however, is just to make good sounding work then you have a lot of options.  You could take initial recordings that may sound a bit weak and lacking and process them through your pedals again.  You could record to tape initially - which will be much kinder to you when pushed into the red than if you did so digitally - and then further process that tape or simply line it in and transfer it to your computer.

Don't forget as well that even if you did have the option of a loud amp, there is a huge difference between what you'll hear performing vs what you'll get just by shoving some shitty mic in front of the speaker.  Getting good recordings from this kind of setup is something that takes its own kind of practice and trial/error too.

The ideal way to make and record sound is to have a range of options so, in my opinion, the answer is really somewhere in the middle of all this.  As ever, the key should be to experiment and practice within what you have rather than worry too much about what you don't have.
Logged
Soloman Tump
Newbie
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 24



WWW
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 09:50:38 PM »

I currently record straight into my mixer and monitor it through headphones.  I have a small radio (and with really crap built in speaker) for getting a vague idea of what's going on.  I would obviously prefer to play loud but currently its not possible (baby and toddler in the house!)

As already mentioned, find a local recording studio with rehearsal rooms.  That's my plan, i've got a Friday night 3 hour session booked in for the end of the month.
Logged

Electronic music zine
http://www.snarerush.co.uk
pentd
Heavy user
****
Offline Offline

Posts: 265


IME


WWW
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2017, 08:27:04 PM »

theres so many shitty earbuds/headphones in trash cans everywhere... those go well into outputs of mixers and then a contact mic to that. always a little bit of noise, so not total "mute sound" but enough to get some layers of crazy shit into a piece... and doesnt matter if you blow them up. electronic diarrhea!!
Logged
collapsedhole
user
***
Offline Offline

Posts: 145


« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2017, 03:43:29 PM »

anne franks house, lol....

anyway, a tape recorder like this:



putting objects directly on the speaker will record loudly and/or "distorted".

putting the recorder itself in a trashcan (thanks pentti) and moving it around / hitting it, etc.....

personally i find it impossible to enjoy noise unless it is as loud as possible, and don't listen to it if i can't play at loud volumes. headphones can scratch the itch if i'm too inebriated to move, but i can't rock out with em on, ya know..
Logged
Pages: [1]
  Print  
 
Jump to:  


Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!
Page created in 0.127 seconds with 20 queries.