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« Reply #6195 on: March 17, 2017, 05:23:49 PM »

ATRAX MORGUE "195 Melrose Avenue NW2" tape
Self Abuse
1996 Atrax Morgue, insane as usual. This tape is very good for mixing the demented ultra simple synth sound + vocals type of tracks with more comple and free-flowing noisier tracks. Titles include such great ones as Give Me A Corpse, Cuntrazor, She's Dead (Now), Crush My Cock, Troubled Meat, etc.....   After so many LP reissues on Urashima, one can't really justify "more of the same", but still this tape is better than some of the already done reissues.

9th MASSACRE "Murder" tape
RICHARD RAMIREZ "Nature's Afterbirth" tape

Deadline
Brilliant 90's Ramirez noise. Sometimes loop stuff gets 9th Massacre almost to "usa pe" feel to it. Certainly closer to early Death Squad stuff. however, it is most of all just plain brutal harsh noise.
1994 Nature's Afterbirth is just the type of ramirez noise one can appreciate as needed dosage of "no bullshit" straight forward carnage, from the days when he always delivered

V/A INRI tape
Cold Spring
In morning was browsing tapes and thought, why not check out "where it all started". Already infamous UK label, back in late 80's, put out this CS 001. Psychic TV and Grey Wolves are names that still appear on Cold Spring catalogue. Many of the other obscure experimental & noise names here don't say much. GW's industrial beat track here is really eerie. Few of the noisier contributions from bands work great. The Psychic TV live pieces and kind of atmopsheric experimental rock tunes between don't do much for me.

DOKUMENT #6 - Rituals tape
Private Edition
East and south? I guess so. African rituals certainly have quite horrid feel to them. Savage chants.

V/A SILENCE=DEATH tape
Bored Bear Recordings
I didn't even remember what this is. Thought it could be some sort of death industrial release I didn't remember and just popped it to tape player without going through j-card. I appreciated how diverse the tape was, and then while turning side, looked insert and damn! This is the Queer noise comp from 2011! Being C-100 tape, and if the qualification has been that one needs to be identifying as "queer noise", it didn't give very promising expectation for quality, but perhaps it was about listening this without remembering what it was, that it turns out to be fairly good. No a classic by any means, but wholeness is strong enough to hold few weaker bits good enough to make comp work. Diversity and quality what wasn't expected. Funny thing is that cover doesn't print any contact addressies etc, but there is printed link to specific chondriticsound forum topic. What it has been, no idea...  
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« Reply #6196 on: March 18, 2017, 03:57:50 AM »

Skin Graft - Dystrophy

Yes, yes - this is an older and maybe classic album at this point. However, i think it is important to return to for a number of reasons. Despite Skin Graft always representing the harshest and baddest of attitudes, in my eyes, the clarity of both sound and intention on this album is staggering. What I find really important about some of the best Skin Graft songs is that even in the density there is a sense of space. I have no idea if this was carefully put together or just jammed and then mastered really well but for fuck's sake, this is what a good dynamic harsh noise album should sound like...
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« Reply #6197 on: March 18, 2017, 03:29:00 PM »

NYODENE D "The Hooks That Snare the wolf" tape
Dream Root Recordings
Found this tape I got probably when it was released. Edition of 25 in 2010. According to discogs "The artist considers this to be an unofficial release due to the fact that the sound is defective." Probably wouldn't be big job to dub new edition of 25, but well... CDR reissue done by Live Bait 2011.
Label seemed to exists merely 2 years anyway. Defects of sound was something, I suspected while listening, but as we talk of rather abstract electronics, it wan't that obvious. Few glitches, mainly on b-side, but enough subtle that it wouldn't really distract listening.
For bands discography, material is less ambitious, less complex. No vocals. No metal junk. No "songs".  Just two half an hour long minimal and suffocating synth based tracks. Dark, slightly rhythmic, much more into death industrial approach than aggressive song oriented stuff. And sound, songs, etc, somehow appeals to me more than "edited" feel of the more complex works.

PRURIENT "Shrimp Crescent" tape
Hospital
Noisy and ripping stuff here is the best. Hoarse vocals, grim and rough noise. Tour tape for Yankee Know How 2005. C-10 tape, what is nothing utterly remarkable in vast Prurient discography but still good stuff to listen to.

DEATHPILE "Gashbutcher" tape
Bloodlust!
DEATHPILE "Triumph of Death" tape
Self Abuse

I was somehow under impression that Deathpile  ‎– Final Confession CD or double LP would compile "all" non-album Deathpile. But that's just memory doing tricks, as how could it be possible?! Fuck, I must have several hours of Deathpile in my own shelves what has yet to be reissued.
And that makes me wonder, why not? Malsonus did put out few files online in 2016 that collected tracks from bunch of old tapes, but listening Gashbutcher or Triumph of Death, makes me think if Slogun, Intrinsic Action, Death Squad, etc works have all been immortalized on CD format, these tapes offer such a crushing 90's USA Power Electronics that they certainly would demand same treatment.
Less up-front-vocals, but heavy, electric, thick assault of electronic mayhem! Someone should approach the man to suggest it.
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« Reply #6198 on: March 18, 2017, 10:35:36 PM »

I think Deathpile's best work was "Back on the Prowl". That needs a proper reissue!
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« Reply #6199 on: March 19, 2017, 01:52:25 AM »

Iron Fist Of The Sun - Blush (CD, Unrest Productions): I had heard some tracks from IFOTS a couple years back, but wasn't into it, but a while ago I heard a track on one of the Unrest comps and quite liked it, so I got this CD and I'm nicely surprised. It's quite minimal and clean, but good, yes. I think that there's something soothing in Joyless New Start.

Kontinent - Death Technologies (LP, Unrest Productions): Couldn't tell this project apart from Kevlar if hearing it without knowing who it is. So, I guess makes clear what you can expect and of course that it is really good too!

Survival Unit - Tied Down For Survival (CD, Autarkeia): Can't go wrong with Survival Unit. Weird idea to have a full gig in the middle of the album, though it seems the gig is more lo-fi and the tracks around are a bit more lo-fi than some of the others too, so in that sense it doesn't really disturb.

Scatmother - Flowers of Maltreatment (CD, Filth&Violence): More variation than the first album, still mostly brutal, with sick lyrics. What a pervert!

Xenophobic Ejaculation - Black Hole (CD, Filth&Violence): This is really good! I had heard some XE stuff before, but never really got into it, but this does the trick!

Sick Seed - Prison Songs (CD, Filth&Violence/TeRRoR):The sound the album begins with feels like someone is drilling a hole in your skull or something. It's kinda cool, but not what I consider a "nice" sound in the scope of Industrial/PE. Anyway, aside from that varied album, very good. The lyrics of Massgrave of Goats are savage too!

Beyond Enclosure - Dungeon of Total Void (CD, Malignant Records): Bleak, rather claustrophobic PE/Death Industrial, rumbling synths, emotionless vocals. Good stuff!

Body Stress - CCC (C40, Obsessive Fundamental Realism): Harsh Noise, pedal HN (I think), maybe not top of the top for me, but pretty good! Nice pics too!

ANTIchildLEAGUE - Holy Spirit (C40, Obsessive Fundamental Realism): I've only got some 7" stuff from her and while good, I never thought this was great. This tape however suits me better, opening track is very good.

Salo Salon - Agonal Pessimism (C?, Obsessive Fundamental Realism): Industrial Ambient or something, it's clearly influenced by Industrial, but it's quite calm and thus seems to have an Ambient quality. After first listen, I did get the feeling that it didn't make much of an impression, neither good nor bad. I'll have to listen again, but of course, that's not the best thing a release can do...
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« Reply #6200 on: March 21, 2017, 01:25:11 PM »

Spastic Colon / Oscillating Innards - split LP from California box set
SC sounding more like bleeps and hums -side of noise/experimental. Not really my stuff, being too quiet for my taste. Sounded a bit like fucked-up test record. OI side was more like my kind-a-stuff: harsh loudness and calming drones mixed together.
Rubber O Cement / GX Jupitter-Larsen - split LP from California box set
ROC side sounds more like free impro collection of random sounds than a coherent piece of work. Nowadays I tend to dislike this kind of approach because I usually search for some clue, point or thread even in the most cacophonous works. I am not saying this piece is bad, I believe every track that has made to California box set are good in their own field but it's just not for me... at a certain mood, maybe.
GX - the grand old man - delivers the goods once again. Straightforward abrasive noise. In my list this goes to the better half of the GX/Haters spectrum.
Various Artists - Ruido Horrible X CD
Mexican DIY label Ruido Horrible's compilation of Latin America's noise and experimental. Interesting stuff varying from avant experimental to harsh noise, noise rock, drum-machine driven noisecore & chaotic free jazz. There's not a single bad track here, of course some are more interesting than others but as a whole it's entertaining piece with stylishly different tracks mixing painlessly together. It's interesting to note that most of the artists here have made only few releases (if any). Maybe they are 'hidden treasures' or their output haven't been documented on discogs well enough. Some personal favorites: Tron, Bonequi, 886VG (harsh cut-up fuckery - I've mentioned this remarkable artist elsewhere in this forum before), Vulgar Disease (seriously brutal PE - I think you can find the releases at archive.org) & Los Heraldos Negros.
Cock E.S.P. + Appliancide / Waffelpung + Waffelpung - Split LP
Never mind the title, it is a CD. Listening to this record is like listening to a movie which you cannot see. Somehow my mind starts to build visuals around the sounds. Is it good or bad record? I honestly don't know, it's beyond judging. Not one of those records that I will revisit very often. Last five minutes sounds very good, though.
Extreme Noise Terror / Cock E.S.P. - split 5"
Somehow I thought this would be an unlikely pair to share a split. Quality stuff from both parties.
None Of Your Fucking Business - Noyfb Escapes from Hell 7"
One of those gimmick records which has two songs on two parallel grooves (at different speed) running from inside to outside. The whole curious concept almost manages to disguise the fact that this is just an average ultra-fast hardcore.
None Of Your Fucking Business - 30 Seconds of None Of Your Fucking Business 7"
1-sided EP with seven tracks in 30 secs. I enjoyed this more than the other 7". And it doesn't waste your time for too long.

Bathory - The Return... LP
Undeniable classic. Well this is partly a nostalgia trip since I've owned this LP since the 80's and I still remember the impact it had on me back then. I like it even better than the 1st album. Quite conservative sounding hard rock compared to contemporary extreme black metal but still never fails to entertain me. Rough and basic, pure and simple.
Beherit - Dawn of Satan's Millenium 7"
One more classic. This is the definitive BM record for me. Primitive stuff with some amazing vocal sounds. Nice picture disc.
Anal Blasphemy / Azaghal - Baying of Lycanthropes split 7"
I remember when I first listened this I was a bit disappointed because I expected it to be more filthy, more over-the-top. This could be classified as hi-fi compared to two previous entries on my list. A side being quite basic BM with your typical horror samples and a track which has some nice tempo and mood changes. B side track sounding almost like a 'rocking' black metal tune. When overcame my failed expectations I notice that this isn't bad after all... at least for a genre outsider like me.
Still I think that the best part of this release is the cover. One more part on the ongoing series of 'bare babe having fun with a crucifix'. There must/should be a porn mag dedicated to that particular theme alone.
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« Reply #6201 on: March 21, 2017, 05:21:00 PM »

Skin Graft - Dystrophy

Yes, yes - this is an older and maybe classic album at this point. However, i think it is important to return to for a number of reasons. Despite Skin Graft always representing the harshest and baddest of attitudes, in my eyes, the clarity of both sound and intention on this album is staggering. What I find really important about some of the best Skin Graft songs is that even in the density there is a sense of space. I have no idea if this was carefully put together or just jammed and then mastered really well but for fuck's sake, this is what a good dynamic harsh noise album should sound like...

I don't have this CD, but been listening today Skin Graft "Malice" tape from 2011, which is roughly same era of recordings. C-30, but same material on both sides. I can't say I would have been HUGE fan of Skin Graft before, but this recording hits in very different way. I always liked what he did, but this recording for some reason seems better than some others.

It has heaviness. Same kind of bassy and rumbling quality like Mania or Hum Of The Druid often have, but all the texture and detail, especially constantly modulated subtle effects are so well done. I assume he modulates source sounds through filterbanks or synth, to make all these tiny, busy electronic particels of sound constantly move, even if the overall feel is oppressively slow moving mass. Have to check other Skin Graft material soon!

USE YOUR PAIN "Satanic Constellation" tape
Dreizehn
After listening Kadef / Napalmed split tape (no further comments, but it's actually good tape!), moved to this. Bought it ages ago from Artware. Still has the 18 deutch mark pricetag on it with Donna's typical hand writing. Bassy, rough, primitive, rumbling industrial-noise rituals. Its done without much of effects and none of the typicalities of ritual music. Just raw and dark noisy junk. There's nothing what really makes this qualify wide attention or "reissue", but just like Witanski's stuff in general, there is some totally different aura in them compared to almost any noise done these days.

S*Core "Pretension" tape
Staaltape
Jesus christ! I don't remember when I bought this, but must be long ago. 1988 release, and how good it is? I'm just constantly amazed how this artist isn't praised as ultimate hero of Japanese industrial-noise! Perhaps it would be even valid to say, that his earlier stuff, before all the full length albums what some may foolishly associate with "japanese noise", is even more musical. It is not music, no more than Alfarmania, Pain Nail, Linija Mass or such, but after mentioning those names, you could expect that perhaps early S*core stuff would fit into line with them 100%. Just done it decades before. 7 tracks, each killer sounds, structeres, experimentations. Always dark and noisy industrial atmosphere, but never blasting "japanoise", even if S*Core may use plenty of raw industrial audio waste in making the songs.
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« Reply #6202 on: March 23, 2017, 02:02:10 AM »

Sadistic Lingam Cult/ops-psf/Shit-700/Marduk 4-way split CS (Y Records)
        Side A: SLC does some very strange and heavy atmospheric occult-ish industrial with touches of black metal-ish PE vocals; I guess this kind of reminds me of Blessed Sacrifist. Not really my thing. Next ops-psf does blown-out, crunchy micronoisecore, Japanese-style – can't really complain. Good shit. Side B: Shit-700 does pretty typical South American noisecore, but is that a bad thing? Fuck no! Actually my favorite part of the split. More “song structure,” if you can call it that. Last up is Marduk (not the black metal band, obviously) doing absolutely childlike and primitive noisecore – sounds like some 12 or 13 year olds recorded themselves playing sort of like Napalm Death, then damaged the tapes and processed the results on more manipulated tapes. Crunch, flutter, and very irritating vocals. Still rather hear that than Wadge.

Ops-psf/Limbs Bin/Parasite Social/Penis Geyser 4-way split CS (Smash Music/Laser Eye)
        A-side begins with ops-psf doing tape-collage monster movie noisecore; definitely enjoyable once around but not as “brutal” as their other stuff. Next up is Limbs Bin, doing a pretty harsh noise-type tape on noisecore, lots of static and feedback – wasn't sold on the vocals, but will probably check out more from this project. B-side is Parasite Social first, with some absolutely killer rotten noisecore with an eerie reverb effect saturating the whole mix. More noisecore like this, please. Really grim and dead-sounding. Last is Penis Geyser, basically the US' most popular noisecore outfit – they sound better/worse/different every recording, so either you already like it/are curious, or you don't, and you're not. This time around it sounds as if they're a pile of destroyed sound being picked up off the floor.

La Chair & Le Sang “Premieres Humiliations” CS
       Interesting noisecore with absurd atmospheric/”industrial” touches. Sort of roaring reverb sound not unlike the Parasite Social tracks mentioned above. I like the flatlining feedback. Not quite as into this as I am PS, though. Some pretty strange backround noises and a bell-toll synth sound at one point – can't dislike that. But not too sure about the congruity of atmosphere and noiscore in principle. Kind of like putting ketchup on ramen.

La Chair & Le Sang/Cryptofascisme split CS
       Side A is LC & LS. Seems to be all dismal, futuristic-sounding drone/industrial electronics with what sound like Gregorian chants sampled and pitch-shifted via tape loops. Not exactly sure what I'm listening to, actually, seeing as how this and the above release were dubbed onto the same tape (thanks Remi!).
   Side B = Cryptofascisme. I guess Cryptofascisme is the noisecore equivalent to Peenemunde? Obviously inspired by political history and WWII, and somehow having this air-raid, bombed-out sound. Some parts I can tell there were drums in the mix at one point, but others not so much. Sort of a weird layer of high-end synth noise crisp over everything. Not sure about this project – I think I prefer a little more “-core” in my noisecore. But the idea of manipulating live recordings after-the-fact is still excellent – I just wish more of it sounded like the ideas floating around in my head!

Cryptofascisme “Mille Collines.” CS (Yes Divulgation)
        More pseudo-noisecore – I like this, but can barely understand the context of the subject matter because my French is atrocious. Sort of muddy, grim and depressing sound – this is what I would imagine folks in 3rd-world countries doing if they'd never heard any noise. Not at all a bad thing, though. Just not terribly sure if this is the sort of thing to listen to twice. Favorite highlight was when an unexpected rhythm emerged from the murk and gave off old-M.B. vibes. Recording quality goes from fairly muddy to surprisingly good. I sort of doubt the guy behind the project would appreciate the comparison, but I hear some similarities with obscure deep-buried Filth & Violence one-offs.

Unkologists “Ear Studies” CS (Yes Divulgation)
        Synth wanking experiments straight to...I don't know, between one and four tracks, presumably. This isn't really the type of thing you can say is good, bad, utter shit, etc., because it's literally one guy recording experiments. So, not many want something that raw and unfinished, but this recording isn't totally without merit or purpose. For one, it has a youthful experimentation vibe of early Come Org and Iphar stuff; in that it's meant to be played loud, has a sort of demented disposition to it, and would probably make pretty good torture soundtrack music – it ranges from disturbing bleeps and bloops, to noisy PE tones, to painfully loud ear-raping sounds. This kind of thing can be really pleasant or unpleasant depending on a lot of variables, but I guess this has the same plain and sadistic vibes for me as the very first Consumer Electronics tapes and early M.B. – torture music.
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« Reply #6203 on: March 24, 2017, 02:44:29 AM »


Bleach Boys ‎– "Vikland"
Super underrated 90's Oi! from France. They stuck with the 4 Skins formula of simple, Punk inspired Oi! rather than the goofy RAC influences of bad attempts at catchy Rock and Roll that were so prevalent in some of the 90's Oi!. But what makes them stick out to me is their slight Post-Punk leanings in tracks like "Chant De Fidelite". Lovely aesthetic as well.       


Evil Skins ‎– Une Force, Une Cause, Un Combat
More French Oi! music but this time it's from a band that was very popular within Europe both inside and outside of their home country. Lots of tunes to shout along with even though I don't know a lick of French. These guys do "catchy" really well. The band always got some criticism over their aesthetic and use of symbols even though they were not a racialist band (the vocalist was a wheelchair bound Iranian).
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Bleach Boys ‎– "Vikland"
Super underrated 90's Oi! from France. They stuck with the 4 Skins formula of simple, Punk inspired Oi! rather than the goofy RAC influences of bad attempts at catchy Rock and Roll that were so prevalent in some of the 90's Oi!. But what makes them stick out to me is their slight Post-Punk leanings in tracks like "Chant De Fidelite". Lovely aesthetic as well.   
Evil Skins ‎– Une Force, Une Cause, Un Combat
More French Oi! music but this time it's from a band that was very popular within Europe both inside and outside of their home country. Lots of tunes to shout along with even though I don't know a lick of French. These guys do "catchy" really well. The band always got some criticism over their aesthetic and use of symbols even though they were not a racialist band (the vocalist was a wheelchair bound Iranian).

Either you're misinformed, or clueless, or a revisionnist. And you obviously don't understand French because both bands' lyrics are quite unequivocal. They're RAC bands, not oi bands. Most French oi bands used to be apolitical (which led to songs with very embarrassing lyrics sometimes) but these two were more than apolitical bands, they were explicitly right-wing.

And the fact that Evil Skins' singer was Iranian doesn't mean shit. Look up who Batskin/Serge Ayoub is and how Sniff got crippled and you'll see.

Also, the viking on the Bleach Boys cover is taken from the comic Hagar Dunor, which is really funny, witty (his name's a pun) and definitely not sketchy.
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« Reply #6205 on: March 24, 2017, 06:04:13 PM »

Either you're misinformed, or clueless, or a revisionnist. And you obviously don't understand French because both bands' lyrics are quite unequivocal. They're RAC bands, not oi bands. Most French oi bands used to be apolitical (which led to songs with very embarrassing lyrics sometimes) but these two were more than apolitical bands, they were explicitly right-wing.

Did you read anything I said before you commented, gatekeeper? What are you even on about? I literally never said anything about them not being right-wing or apolitical, I said they weren't Racialists. There is a difference between "Racialism", nationalism and the right wing; all of these things can and do exist outside of one another, they are not mutually inclusive. And I never mentioned the Bleach Boys politics at all, I said that their sound was closer to Oi! than to the RAC sound popular at the time. RAC isn't simply about being anti-communist, or being "right-wing", RAC isn't just a subject matter thing, it has a separate sound from Oi!, anyone can tell that just by listening to Bound For Glory, Honor, No Remorse and comparing it to Sham 69, Peter and the Test Tube Babies, Cockney Rejects, etc.

About the Evil Skins, I am getting this information from the interview the band members have done themselves, for example;

"Also, our delusions of violence was to the zenith by displaying fascist slogans, but in both our band and crew there were skins that were black, Chinese, Arab, Iranian and there was also a Jew. Some of these skins wore skinhead reggae, trojan, or rude boys badges on their bombers. Others who were within the group liked the Communists Angelic Upstarts.
There was a time of contact with real fascists who wanted us recruited, but it is not possible. We were guys from the streets, politics is derided. We just loved to brawl. "
http://thespiritofyesterdayoi.blogspot.com/2011/04/interview-with-petit-willy-of-evil.html


And maybe because now that they are Krishna's and Hindu monks and murderers and blah blah blah they are maybe just trying to minimize their involvement, I don't know nor do I care, but I am certainly not trying to be "revisionist" or spread misinformation, I'm merely going by what they themselves have said on the matter.

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And the fact that Evil Skins' singer was Iranian doesn't mean shit. Look up who Batskin/Serge Ayoub is and how Sniff got crippled and you'll see.

I know it was from a shotgun blast during a fight. What does that have to do with anything that I said while reviewing the sound of the music?

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Also, the viking on the Bleach Boys cover is taken from the comic Hagar Dunor, which is really funny, witty (his name's a pun) and definitely not sketchy.

Who said anything about the Viking being sketchy?
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« Reply #6206 on: March 24, 2017, 07:15:15 PM »

Serge Ayoub is a fantastic example of the identity crisis of most Lebanese living in any western society. Especially those with a lighter skin complexion.

Different topic but I'm putting this out there. PM if anyone would like to discuss.
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« Reply #6207 on: March 24, 2017, 07:24:37 PM »

Serge Ayoub is a fantastic example of the identity crisis of most Lebanese living in any western society. Especially those with a lighter skin complexion.

Different topic but I'm putting this out there. PM if anyone would like to discuss.

I have an interest in Lebanon but more so about the Sunni and Shia derision and the attempts of Salafi's to impose themselves. Doing research about Islamic State leadership so definitely interested in discussion if you know anything or have opinions /know Lebanese who have  opinions, regarding that.
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Serge Ayoub is a fantastic example of the identity crisis of most Lebanese living in any western society. Especially those with a lighter skin complexion.

Different topic but I'm putting this out there. PM if anyone would like to discuss.
the Islamic State

Is not welcomed in Lebanon. None of the sects are having their shit.
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« Reply #6209 on: March 24, 2017, 11:02:45 PM »


Bleach Boys ‎– "Vikland"
Super underrated 90's Oi! from France. They stuck with the 4 Skins formula of simple, Punk inspired Oi! rather than the goofy RAC influences of bad attempts at catchy Rock and Roll that were so prevalent in some of the 90's Oi!. But what makes them stick out to me is their slight Post-Punk leanings in tracks like "Chant De Fidelite". Lovely aesthetic as well.       


Evil Skins ‎– Une Force, Une Cause, Un Combat
More French Oi! music but this time it's from a band that was very popular within Europe both inside and outside of their home country. Lots of tunes to shout along with even though I don't know a lick of French. These guys do "catchy" really well. The band always got some criticism over their aesthetic and use of symbols even though they were not a racialist band (the vocalist was a wheelchair bound Iranian).


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