RIP OFF ALERTS topic

[online prowler]

AVOID seller rundownsun in discogs. He is selling various over-priced noise. I recently bought a cassette from him, Prurient The Golden Chamber, which was sold as 'mint, never played', but it came chewed and damaged on side B. Seller was dismissive and aloof when confronted boardering to rude. No response after video documention with sound and photos of case sent. The video has however been downloaded. Seller also admitted in email to having played the tape previously, so all his discogs item descriptions are not to be trusted. Case sent to paypal for refund. No recommendation, better to avoid. Case solved. Refund via paypal.

[Fistfuck Masonanie]

It saddens me to write this, but here we go; Rodger Stella owes me $250 worth of cassette tapes from an order placed a year ago. For a few years prior to this, we had several great transactions together without any problems. However, almost a year ago I had placed a wholesale order for about $500 worth of Macronympha and Mother Savage cassette reissues. It took awhile and several emails/texts, but I eventually received half of the order. You can draw your own conclusions as far as why this happened, but I also know for a fact that some other people have experienced the same problem.

I don't think he's been making any posts lately trying to sell any tapes, but I figured it would be best to make this post in order to make others aware in case they try to do business with him. Also, I will gladly edit this post and make an update if things ever get rectified.

This is really sad to hear, I ordered over 50 tapes from when he was first reissuing all the Macro and MSNP stuff. Was always super nice and prompt and I never had any issues. Hopefully he is doing OK personally and I hope you get the cassettes you are owed.

I know he said they were all limited to 30 back then but I think he is just dubbing them on demand. Keep us updated if the situation changes, there still some older reissues I wanted to grab.

[online prowler]

It saddens me to write this, but here we go; Rodger Stella owes me $250 worth of cassette tapes from an order placed a year ago. For a few years prior to this, we had several great transactions together without any problems. However, almost a year ago I had placed a wholesale order for about $500 worth of Macronympha and Mother Savage cassette reissues. It took awhile and several emails/texts, but I eventually received half of the order. You can draw your own conclusions as far as why this happened, but I also know for a fact that some other people have experienced the same problem.

I don't think he's been making any posts lately trying to sell any tapes, but I figured it would be best to make this post in order to make others aware in case they try to do business with him. Also, I will gladly edit this post and make an update if things ever get rectified.

I have dealt with Rodger multiple times over the last years for the Where frost reign distro. He has always been cordial and trustworthy. Never once have there been any issues. Orders might sometime have taken a month to process, but that is expected when all is hand assembled and running a one man operation. I can vouch for Stella. Would do business with him again gladly.

[whiteheatnoise]

As I said earlier in the post, I had done several successful transactions with him in the past without any problems. In fact, I know Rodger personally and think that he is pretty stand-up guy aside from this whole ordeal. But, after waiting a year for $250 worth of stock, in addition to straight up being lied to about tapes being on their way to me, I feel that my post was warranted. Furthermore, as I also mentioned in the first post, I will edit my comments as soon as the situation is rectified. Just trying to give others a heads up to avoid the situation I'm currently in. When was the last time you have placed a wholesale order with him if I may ask?

I have dealt with Rodger multiple times over the last years for the Where frost reign distro. He has always been cordial and trustworthy. Never once have there been any issues. Orders might sometime have taken a month to process, but that is expected when all is hand assembled and running a one man operation. I can vouch for Stella. Would do business with him again gladly.

[online prowler]

As I said earlier in the post, I had done several successful transactions with him in the past without any problems. In fact, I know Rodger personally and think that he is pretty stand-up guy aside from this whole ordeal. But, after waiting a year for $250 worth of stock, in addition to straight up being lied to about tapes being on their way to me, I feel that my post was warranted. Furthermore, as I also mentioned in the first post, I will edit my comments as soon as the situation is rectified. Just trying to give others a heads up to avoid the situation I'm currently in. When was the last time you have placed a wholesale order with him if I may ask?

I am writing my experiences with Stella and judging from that I think it was okay to have another perspective as you cautioned others to interact with him. Other than that my intention is not to diminish your claim. I did business with Rodger not long ago.

[totalblack]

AVOID seller rundownsun in discogs. He is selling various over-priced noise. I recently bought a cassette from him, Prurient The Golden Chamber, which was sold as 'mint, never played', but it came chewed and damaged on side B. Seller was dismissive and aloof when confronted boardering to rude. No response after video documention with sound and photos of case sent. The video has however been downloaded. Seller also admitted in email to having played the tape previously, so all his discogs item descriptions are not to be trusted. Case sent to paypal for refund. No recommendation, better to avoid. Case solved. Refund via paypal.

Just want to chime in here as I've had nothing but good interactions and experiences with both of you, and Josh reached out to me recently regarding this- he said that the release WAS unplayed, but you requested a play test before shipment, in which there was no issues with the cassette. This was the only time he played the tape. He said that he initially asked what you wanted to do and offered a refund with return of the tape, and then didn't hear back from you until a month later when the paypal dispute was opened. He also said that you asked him to pay for blank tapes and for the purchase of the FLAC files, since you had recorded your own dub of the tape, opened the two shells, and inserted that into the original tape shell. I've known Josh for more than 10 years and his projects and label were great Canadian HN when he was active in the mid '00s. I know others who have purchased from him recently without any problems and with items in perfect described condition. I can't see any reason that he would lie about this situation.

[online prowler]

AVOID seller rundownsun in discogs. He is selling various over-priced noise. I recently bought a cassette from him, Prurient The Golden Chamber, which was sold as 'mint, never played', but it came chewed and damaged on side B. Seller was dismissive and aloof when confronted boardering to rude. No response after video documention with sound and photos of case sent. The video has however been downloaded. Seller also admitted in email to having played the tape previously, so all his discogs item descriptions are not to be trusted. Case sent to paypal for refund. No recommendation, better to avoid. Case solved. Refund via paypal.

Just want to chime in here as I've had nothing but good interactions and experiences with both of you, and Josh reached out to me recently regarding this- he said that the release WAS unplayed, but you requested a play test before shipment, in which there was no issues with the cassette. This was the only time he played the tape. He said that he initially asked what you wanted to do and offered a refund with return of the tape, and then didn't hear back from you until a month later when the paypal dispute was opened. He also said that you asked him to pay for blank tapes and for the purchase of the FLAC files, since you had recorded your own dub of the tape, opened the two shells, and inserted that into the original tape shell. I've known Josh for more than 10 years and his projects and label were great Canadian HN when he was active in the mid '00s. I know others who have purchased from him recently without any problems and with items in perfect described condition. I can't see any reason that he would lie about this situation.

Brett, you don't seem to have all the facts re the transaction and my contact with seller. I won't go into detail about this with other than seller and consider this a closed case as I was offered a partial refund. I remain firm in my position. You are entiled to voice a comment here. 

[deutscheasphalt]

Fuck - I don't know who to believe now :/

[NO PART OF IT]

Ah well, another dash of bad luck with labels.  This one has never sent me copies of a release of mine, for over a year and a half now.  He still buys plenty on bandcamp, though.  SAD.  http://www.novaalternativa.cz/label.html

I don't understand these deadbeat labels.  If you're a shyster, your work is garbage to me, immediately.  I don't know how you all forgive liars and thieves who clearly are only starved for attention. 

[Theodore]

Achtung !

From http://noisewinkle.blogspot.com/2018/10/esp-kinetic-1985-c15.html :

I should probably mention that this is a tape Neil sent directly to me, presumably a one off with a handmade sleeve - bits of photocopies glued to the front and the track list written in biro. Therefore if you see this tape for sale on eBay, sold by some bloke in Bulgaria mumbling something about how he recorded it off the radio, and if he's selling it for forty bucks, and if you buy it for forty bucks, then that's your tough shit. I mention this only as the fucking clown in question is flogging an old Opera for Infantry tape for about the same, having downloaded it from this blog; and I know this because when I digitised the tape, it came with no track listing so I had to listen to the thing and come up with names for the tracks based on Trev's vocal - and those same titles appear on his expensive collector's item, hopeless wanker.

If this is yourself reading this, oh eBay retailer of my downloads, get a fucking job.

About this post : https://noisewinkle.blogspot.com/2018/03/opera-for-infantry-band-sessions-1984.html

Link to the shameless gypsy's bootleg : https://www.ebay.com/itm/OPERA-FOR-INFANTRY-Rehearsal-1984/153240580321

He has many other expensive items as well. Looking at his perfect feedback [!] , you can see Burzum, Death tapes sold for more than 100 etc. Judging by this OFI, everything is fake. That's more than enough for me to say so. Poor buyers !

I think i know his discogs name too. But since i cant be 100% sure to connect these 2 accounts between them, let it ...

I was thinking if i should post this or not, since i have no solid proof he is the same guy -Paypal address etc.- , but i bet all-in he is, so that's the name i didnt tell then, and he is back on action. -Though this probably should be posted at a metal forum, i am not in any.- Better be careful : https://www.discogs.com/seller/Teotat/profile
Another account [?] : https://www.discogs.com/user/Teota
Same / a friend [?] , whatever this account adds in database, dear Teotat jumps in to sell it : https://www.discogs.com/user/uvrpk

His perfect feedback kills me ! - You might say now at least he declares they are unofficial. Well, download MP3 files from internet and make a copy yourself, if that's what you want. Cause that exactly you will probably get as his "unofficial" !