Pornography Appreciation / Sexual curiousities / etc topic

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, December 13, 2009, 09:55:35 PM

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Vigilante Ecstasy

Surprisingly interesting documentary about two men who changed themselves into woman and back to man again. After the slow start they talk intimately about their lives and relationships. The other one was married eleven years to a man who had no idea about the sex-change. When the man found out he was close to killing "her". Bizarrely interesting. Only for Finnish and Swedish speakers.

http://yle.fi/ohjelmat/860909

I'm tensed up/To watch the sex film

tiny_tove

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Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on December 13, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
Lets modify the name of topic a bit, since many posts are also dealing with not really pornographic, but just matters related to sexuality of some sort..

All my time on noisefanatics.com power electronics moderator, there was about 800 posts and close to 50000 views in similar topic in little more than 2 years, being EASILY the most popular topic.

Art of pornography
vintage pornography
modern day pornography
gutter level filth
zero artistic level junk
pornography that connects with experimental music

Books, mags, videos, loops, advice, experience,..
drawings, paintings, photography,.....
.....whatever that is subject of interest.

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And now when it seems like thread has taken new directions too, news/articles and other topic related to sexuality.

NO links to illegal content.
NO repeated photographic posting of XXX content. This is discussion forum, not photo forum. Sometimes, if necessary, accompanied art may be included. Links to sites without pop-up/virus/spyware hazards + non-pay sites is fine, when you add comments.

Thank you for reminding me, Mr. Aspa.
I am fascinated by ROUGHIES and even better, SICKIES.
In the US, in '74, they passed a law concerning what DEGREE ov (simulated) violence could be legally combined with real sexual activity.
ROUGHIES are the rough porns, shot predominantly in NYC ("Punk Rock") and San Francisco where California porn originally manifested because southern california at that time was republican, right wing and intolerant ov porn media.
SICKIES are like ROUGHIES but involving satanists and/or satanic themes.
These two genres are integral with SCUM ROCK, you know, art made by people who are dying or dirty or insane or repulsive or drugged or a total fucking mess. SICKIES are an amazing reversal ov the typical mechanics ov the actor's role in cinema; in SICKIES the "actor" IS on drugs and IS evil. And the chicks are hot with nice bushes on them pussies. Plus you can throw 'em 'round when you're done and that feels NATURAL.

tiny_tove

very interesting start
please references, titles and suggestion for sources.
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Quote from: tiny_tove on January 18, 2013, 10:02:41 AM
very interesting start
please references, titles and suggestion for sources.


http://www.somethingweird.com/cart.php?target=search&substring=Roughies&x=0&y=0

http://www.alphabluearchives.com/store/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=Roughies&x=0&y=0

http://www.alphabluearchives.com/store/index.php?main_page=advanced_search_result&search_in_description=1&keyword=Sickies&x=0&y=0

I'm pretty sure both companies, SOMETHING WEIRD and ALPHA BLUE ARCHIVES are based in the California Bay Area ov the United States and they have all the shit from there...not too sure if these genres existed elsewhere.
I just bought all the satanic sickies compilation from ALPHA BLUE. ALPHA BLUE is the nastier more porn-oriented company, Mikko you should have a look at their offerings for your collection, and everyone else too.
NN



FreakAnimalFinland

yeah, it isn't. Scat vides are legal in many countries. I don't think there's many countries in western europe where you couldn't buy scat simply by walking in porn shop? I'm currently selling old collection of scat VHS tapes on fleemarket. Had some good discussions with old perverts.

I know Alpha Blue of course. I used to do trading with one of employees and got shitloads of their DVD's. Not all stuff is top quality, and some things I have much better as super-8 film loops than what they used for transfers put out as dvd. But these are of course good purchases if one likes the type of films.
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Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 20, 2013, 10:21:10 PM
Anyone heard or seen the films from Stolen Car Films?

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/January/13-crm-071.html

That is quite funny, thinking, that you walk in just about ANY porn shop in manhattan, and you got scat videos available. And in many places beastiality. In store, you see wall of beastiality items, walk out, and you got police officer standing right in next corner minding his own business (traffic).
These are not some dirty caves, but regular public stores. Visited one place few times that was selling lots of kid nudist dvd's. European imports for high prices, which are not "porn" by any means, but when sold IN porn shop, certainly change their spirit, hah... Couple years later went to that same place and those shelves were emptied and staff said they don't touch that stuff anymore. I guess some limits are there, but scat and beasts... would seem absurd to hunt and prosecute one mailorder guy, if there is pretty much public industry operating.
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Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 21, 2013, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 20, 2013, 10:21:10 PM
Anyone heard or seen the films from Stolen Car Films?

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/January/13-crm-071.html

That is quite funny, thinking, that you walk in just about ANY porn shop in manhattan, and you got scat videos available. And in many places beastiality. In store, you see wall of beastiality items, walk out, and you got police officer standing right in next corner minding his own business (traffic).
These are not some dirty caves, but regular public stores. Visited one place few times that was selling lots of kid nudist dvd's. European imports for high prices, which are not "porn" by any means, but when sold IN porn shop, certainly change their spirit, hah... Couple years later went to that same place and those shelves were emptied and staff said they don't touch that stuff anymore. I guess some limits are there, but scat and beasts... would seem absurd to hunt and prosecute one mailorder guy, if there is pretty much public industry operating.

you accurately describe the psychotically contradictory nature ov the American moral landscape in relation to pornography. Absurd as it is to "prosecute one mailorder guy" that is PRECISELY WHAT THE VICE SQUADS AND FBI STING OPERATIONS MUST DO. Those at the very top, who give the cops their orders, are either directly involved with, or affiliated with, practitioners ov satanic sexual abuse who kill and fuck abducted children in their rituals. watch THE DISNEY CHANNEL for a few hours and you will see nothing but prepubescent up to pubescent girls dressed like miniature whores, carrying on like little ladies to serve the ersatz laugh track.
Because there is permanent need for youngsters to feed the beast, the small guy, who trafficks in such materials but probably never acted out his fantasies, must be made to pay to maintain the appearance ov legal consequence.

bitewerksMTB

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on January 21, 2013, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 20, 2013, 10:21:10 PM
Anyone heard or seen the films from Stolen Car Films?

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/January/13-crm-071.html

That is quite funny, thinking, that you walk in just about ANY porn shop in manhattan, and you got scat videos available. And in many places beastiality. In store, you see wall of beastiality items, walk out, and you got police officer standing right in next corner minding his own business (traffic).
These are not some dirty caves, but regular public stores. Visited one place few times that was selling lots of kid nudist dvd's. European imports for high prices, which are not "porn" by any means, but when sold IN porn shop, certainly change their spirit, hah... Couple years later went to that same place and those shelves were emptied and staff said they don't touch that stuff anymore. I guess some limits are there, but scat and beasts... would seem absurd to hunt and prosecute one mailorder guy, if there is pretty much public industry operating.

I like that the Stolen Car Films guy claims to be a "shock artist".  Looks like it was a complicated case:

(from wikipedia)

In 2008 Isaacs was brought to trial in Los Angeles, California on federal obscenity charges for videos featuring scatology and bestiality. At issue were three obscene films sold between May 2004 and October 2006: Gang Bang Horse "Pony Sex Game," Mako's First Time Scat, Hollywood Scat Amateurs No. 7, and BAE 20 (also titled Avantgarde Extreme).[5] The prosecution alleged that the films are obscene, and have no artistic merit. Isaacs claimed the films have both artistic and political value.

The USDOJ Obscenity Prosecution Task Force initiated prosecution on this case.[6][7] The Bush administration formed the task force to investigate pornography at the urging of social conservative groups.[8] Jury selection began Monday, June 9, 2008.[9] On June 11, it was discovered that the judge presiding over the case, Alex Kozinski, had posted controversial material to his own website,[10] prompting the suspension of the case.[11] Kozinski declared a mistrial on June 13.[12]

[edit] Double jeopardy motion

The Department of Justice filed to retry Isaacs on the same charges which prompted Isaacs to file a motion on double jeopardy. Isaac's motion was heard on September 8, 2008. Isaacs lost that hearing in the lower court and appealed to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. On December 22, 2009 the 9th Circuit decided against the artist's bid for his double jeopardy motion. On June 28, 2010 the Supreme Court of the United States denied hearing Isaacs' double jeopardy motion.

[edit] Further charges, retrial and conviction

Isaacs' second trial was initially set to be heard beginning May 17, 2011 but was delayed when prosecutors added further charges.[13] The new indictment included three more charges relating to the sale and shipment of Hollywood Scat Amateurs No. 7, as well as charges regarding four new videos, Hollywood Scat Amateurs No. 38, Trailers, Japanese Doggie 3 Way, and Hollywood Scat Amateurs No. 10.[14] In June Isaacs' attorneys filed a motion to strike evidence suggesting Isaacs' provided controlled substances to the actresses in his films to compel them to perform.[15] The case was presented to a jury in March 2012.[2] A mistrial was declared on March 6, 2012 after jurors deadlocked on the charges. According to Isaacs, jurors voted 10-2 against him.[16] The third trial in April 2012 resulted in convictions on all five federal counts of selling and distributing obscene material.[2] Isaacs was sentenced to four years in prison in January 2013.[17]"

I vaguely recognize the HOLLYWOOD SCAT AMATEURS title.

In the US, each state/city has their own obscenity laws so what's sold in NYC, isn't legal in New Jersey & some cities have no porn shops. There's a law here that basically says that no business can sell sexually oriented material within so many feet of a school/church/etc.

bitewerksMTB

Here's an article with some details on the videos & comments from the "Shock Artist":

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2008/06/shit_happened.php

I originally came across the case on www.reason.com

NN

Quote from: bitewerksMTB on January 21, 2013, 08:33:08 PM
Here's an article with some details on the videos & comments from the "Shock Artist":

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2008/06/shit_happened.php

I originally came across the case on www.reason.com

Very very interesting, gents..
I would say this thread is getting to the very CENTER ov the nature ov transgressiv art, and that always-existing relationship between entartete-kunst/industrial culture and the evolution ov the cpersecution ov erotic artists.

The nature ov what is considered obscene and what is PERSECUTABLE AS OBSCENE is changing in an observable way, the study ov which I could liken to the meteorology ov the psychosexual side ov the mass unconscious.