Pornography Appreciation / Sexual curiousities / etc topic

Started by FreakAnimalFinland, December 13, 2009, 09:55:35 PM

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KillToForget

Thanks for posting that book. I had never heard of Augenblick and will definitely have to keep up with their work.

Possibly a little late to the game, but I watched Tsurisaki Kiyotaka's Paranoid Garden recently and enjoyed it pretty well.

tiny_tove

Since lockdown I befriended several adult biz people. I think I'll use these acquaintances for a project some days. Very interesting how back in the days a new comer would debut doing semi amateur stuff wearing mask and now they debut with DAP and extreme GB with Giorgio Grandi's Legal P.
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Quote from: tiny_tove on October 31, 2023, 11:57:37 AMVery interesting how back in the days a new comer would debut doing semi amateur stuff wearing mask and now they debut with DAP and extreme GB with Giorgio Grandi's Legal P.

Without having any inside information, just from observer's point i feel the streaming 'camwhores' platforms have led to a shortage of newcomers in the porn industry. Now every young slut can make a quick buck by just playing with her vibrator on her bed everynight. Only the real nymphos enter the industry, and ofcource them and the industry have to offer more than the streams. The golden era of online porn was 2007-2012 i think, with the sites of Teencoreclub and the rest, introducing hordes of Russian girls.

On the other hand, i have no idea how much money streaming sluts make. Wouldnt be easier / quicker to do a 'pro' scene a month instead of everyday labor ? Dont know.
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tiny_tove

Quote from: Theodore on November 01, 2023, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: tiny_tove on October 31, 2023, 11:57:37 AMVery interesting how back in the days a new comer would debut doing semi amateur stuff wearing mask and now they debut with DAP and extreme GB with Giorgio Grandi's Legal P.

Only the real nymphos enter the industry,


totally

regarding streaming. mi ex ex ex back in the days made over 2k a month camming and creating personal content. Now either they struggle to get few bucks or are real stars that keeps posting very personal stuff and keep close contact with fans.

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W.K.

Quote from: Theodore on November 01, 2023, 02:24:30 PMOn the other hand, i have no idea how much money streaming sluts make. Wouldnt be easier / quicker to do a 'pro' scene a month instead of everyday labor ? Dont know.

I would think hardcore porn would be a lot less viable unless your a real star in the business, doing softcore by yourself is easier than ever with the rise of Onlyfans and Chaturbate. Hell, girls are making a lot more doing non-nude or softcore on Onlyfans than those doing hardcore scenes, and they can do it by themselves, not having to rely on a scummy production company or 'distributor'.

Why do a 'pro' shoot and having to rely on others, making less money, while you can do it all by yourself, making more?

Is it bad? I don't know. The older I get the less inclined I feel watching other people fucking. Maybe I do miss  new bondage/SM/roleplay scenes sometimes, but whatever.




 
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FreakAnimalFinland

I was watching one document not that long ago, where model mentioned that way more money is made from selling costume used in the scene, that income from that clip itself. Some obsessed fan pays big money for used clothes etc.
The act of making porn is not the challenge at all, when you got platforms anyone can access, you got gear good enough to film or take photos yourself, you don't apparently need to even leave your apartment. With tens of thousands of women doing just about exactly SAME THING, challenge is how the paying customer find you out of that mass. I was watching other documentary where woman said the actual work is basically being 24/7 in social media, predominantly twitter, communicating with fans and posting tasters and trying to find people who want to pay for content.

I don't know how it is in other countries, but over here, it is curious how much big media promotes onlyfans. For some years, we have had repeated similar stories about how much money someone is making. Huge mainstream promotion of platform and "model". There has been no stories about probably thousands of other women who have read those stories, posted stuff, and realized there is no audience to pay them tens of thousands a month, and due not having any idea about "pornography" or "photography" or "filming", their idea revolves around what everybody else is doing. One more cunt staring at webcam and playing with dildo.. oh yes, success waiting...
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tiny_tove

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on November 02, 2023, 10:15:27 AMI was watching one document not that long ago, where model mentioned that way more money is made from selling costume used in the scene, that income from that clip itself. Some obsessed fan pays big money for used clothes etc.
The act of making porn is not the challenge at all, when you got platforms anyone can access, you got gear good enough to film or take photos yourself, you don't apparently need to even leave your apartment. With tens of thousands of women doing just about exactly SAME THING, challenge is how the paying customer find you out of that mass. I was watching other documentary where woman said the actual work is basically being 24/7 in social media, predominantly twitter, communicating with fans and posting tasters and trying to find people who want to pay for content.

I don't know how it is in other countries, but over here, it is curious how much big media promotes onlyfans. For some years, we have had repeated similar stories about how much money someone is making. Huge mainstream promotion of platform and "model". There has been no stories about probably thousands of other women who have read those stories, posted stuff, and realized there is no audience to pay them tens of thousands a month, and due not having any idea about "pornography" or "photography" or "filming", their idea revolves around what everybody else is doing. One more cunt staring at webcam and playing with dildo.. oh yes, success waiting...

I agree completely and very interesting subjects. Based on my own experience and confirmed by acquantances, those who succeed leave their job and become 100% sex workers. I use this term not with the PC meaning but by the fact that they become full time working in sex.
Most succesful one are no goats, they studied the biz, been helped by consultants (who are maybe other performers), create strong links in some sort of community that include producers, directors, content creators and biz influencers who write content for the community (One example is Gustavo Turner from XBiz).
The succesful ones do everything mikko said, run their own OF or similar, use twitch to interact with the younger generation with safer stuff (eg playing videogames in pijama), and are escorts as well. If you go with a good level escort here you pay between 150 and 250. If you go with a porn start you pay MUCH MORE. P0rn is great to boost celebrity and rise prices of performances and they do tours. Most adult stars and OF girls I know also provide that kind of service, often with an alias, but there are forums run by agencies where fan meet to discuss and rate performances where these girls are somewhat outed and indicated. It's manager themselves who often to this in agreement.
They also get hosted in night clubs (at least in switzerland) where they do show and often are available for dates, they keep all the money and only pay rent of the room that often is exchanged for the value of the performance.

My ex back in the days was working for RIV and Cam4, it was the early days, and there were not many doing this. Then there was a big review on a mainstream tv where a girl she was performing with got interviewed and things got wild. For 1/2 years it was cool to do it and also many guys looked for that. She was earning money by 1 to 1 calls, and had some regulars. She was selling clips, pics, underwears and getting gifts (delivered to my PO BOX together with your trades ahaha), doing vocal chats and on request videos pics featuring also other performers (both gals and guys, as well as myself although it was noit my thing) they then were using videos on both profiles. Now it's called content trade. Then she started having dates with some trusted clients, but it's another story. Unfortunately the boyfriend after me exposed her to her legit work partners and parents and was a mess. 
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tiny_tove

Quote from: W.K. on November 01, 2023, 10:51:59 PM
Quote from: Theodore on November 01, 2023, 02:24:30 PMOn the other hand, i have no idea how much money streaming sluts make. Wouldnt be easier / quicker to do a 'pro' scene a month instead of everyday labor ? Dont know.



Why do a 'pro' shoot and having to rely on others, making less money, while you can do it all by yourself, making more?


 

some took that way and live on their own OF but after they gathered enough celebrity status.
some do that to avoid too much exposition to the public because they don't wnat to interact with too many performers or travel
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Quote from: theotherjohn on October 26, 2023, 01:52:46 PMeasily the best book discovery I've had in years: Rain Time: An Experiment In Depth, published by Augenblick Press

just got my copy in the mail. an absolute treasure to any vintage rubber enthusiast. i especially enjoy the handwritten fantasies of needing oxygen after a deep dive while enclosed in rubber. thanks for the recommend.

mazophilia

Quote from: moozz on October 20, 2022, 12:43:18 PMAmazing that this once so active topic has been silent for almost 2.5 years.

After moving back to Finland I have become more and more aware how rare sex shops and second hand book stores selling older magazines are nowadays. Brussels has Nuit de Chine which is a great store with lots of DVDs but also stacks and stacks of magazines and books of all sorts. I don't know if Helsinki for example has anything similar. To buy older sex mags one pretty much needs to go online so no more browsing before buying. Plus sex mags (like everything else) have become some sort of collector thing and magazines tend to be very expensive. The Brussels store had (and probably still has) Busen magazines for 10-15 EUR if I remember right but online the prices seem to be around 50 EUR or even more which is ridiculous. I still prefer printed media over online content or even movies but it is becoming an increasingly expensive hobby. Would anyone have any sources (online or even physical stores) for reasonably priced magazines from (mainly) the '90s? I'm looking for stuff like Busen, Voluptuous, Score, Busty Beauties, Club International, Swank, Men Only, Juggs, etc.
There's a few good options online for big busty magazines:


HateSermon

Yes the online prices are ridiculous but every once in a while you find a good deal. I just recently bought an issue of Taboo from amazon of all places. Half the price of what it was listed as on other fetish specific sites.
Couple of more sites to check out:
Alta Glamour (They're a little on the expensive side, fyi)

https://www.vintagefetishmagazines.com/
This is someone selling from their personal collection with updates somewhat often. Free shipping in US.





DivusDeMortuus

I seem to be on a bit of a mid-80s porn (Christy Canyon, Ginger Lynn, and so on) kick lately, as the last few that I've watched were "WPINK-TV", "Blame It On Ginger", and "Marilyn Chambers' Private Fantasies 5".