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« Reply #2070 on: June 05, 2017, 11:32:03 AM »

My breath is foul (which is butthurt for other people).
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« Reply #2071 on: June 06, 2017, 01:35:38 PM »

https://www.opendemocracy.net/transformation/josefin-hedlund/revolutionary-love

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If you are only attracted to able, 'mentally well', successful (by society’s standards), cisgender, normatively beautiful, slim people, from class privileged backgrounds, then you are also upholding violent norms. This means that you cannot just declare that who you are attracted to is a personal preference. You can’t just get away with saying 'that’s not my type' (unless your non-type is cis-white-hetero-male, they receive enough admiration in society anyway, so lets de-centre that!)
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« Reply #2072 on: June 06, 2017, 08:30:24 PM »

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The real question is: what can the people, through the state, do to correct this problem? Josefin has put his finger on a serious problem. And solutions are what we need people.

From the comments section. I love how the intrusion of institutions in freedom of choice and private lives is seen as oppressive by these lefties, but the notion of the state wielding power to force "cis, hetero, white, privileged," whatever people to do something differently, it's seen as a solution in the name of "restorative social justice." Restored to what, exactly?

I really dislike the modern-day liberal tendency to assume those values have some kind of intellectual or practical edge over others, as if these "solutions" are actually that applicable on a wider level or even all that pragmatic. It's fine that they think absolutely everything needs to change in their favor, but it's hard to accept that they think it can realistically happen. Furthermore, their definition of what is damaging to them will forever widen until the mere existence of others unlike them in whatever ways is seen as a threat. I couldn't think of an outlook any less liberal. Sounds, smells, and thinks just like the Christian-religious right here in America. Neither side can live and let live, it seems.
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« Reply #2073 on: June 09, 2017, 05:37:13 PM »

Patrice O neal makes woman he's arguing with laugh at one of the jokes she's complaining about!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIuPSuYSOY
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« Reply #2074 on: June 10, 2017, 05:47:18 AM »

Patrice was brilliant. He and the regulars on Tough Crowd w/Colin Quinn would have been great right now concerning everything going on.
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« Reply #2075 on: June 17, 2017, 11:45:02 PM »

Man, these Evergreen students are NUTS!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMYfxOFBBM&feature=youtu.be
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« Reply #2076 on: June 18, 2017, 01:51:28 AM »


Damn, this is so confused and sad. The students pc left (?) world-view is thought provokingly distorted and polarizing from where I am sitting. The latter efx is quite funny as it is traditionally a political tool utilized by the right / conservative. Have they no clue or relation to the history that they are representing or flaunting? However, this would be quite an interesting social experiment (but maybe too much to hope?). It got me thinking about an old Israeli Educational Television film my class was forced to see during our first school years. Though the plot is not the same, there are similarities in the two cases when considering group belonging/mentality, "mono vision", etc. Eh! Student uprising for the wrong reasons according to this small clip... I just hope there is more depth to the action than the media presents...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICng-KRxXJ8  

On a small end comment... have to say that there is some parallels with the Norwegian public / media reality as well as the overall homogeneous music / art scene.
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« Reply #2077 on: June 18, 2017, 03:18:31 AM »

That's far from the worst of it. Some students in Middlebury, Vermont choked out a guest speaker and pulled fire alarms in response to his views ("racist" etc). I don't think there's any depth to these people's actions or thinking, just as the Dean said, no nuance, confusion over generalized terms, and lack of tolerance for any other views.

Folks I've spoken to who are of that ilk seem to justify such childishness as "fighting back," tipping the scales in their favor, the good fight, etc. They want to try to suppress anything that doesn't jive with their (confused) take on things. I see it as extended adolescence with a political spin.

Anyone of any opinion or background would risk losing tuition or even criminal prosecution if they behaved like that where I study, luckily. I don't want students who think it's acceptable to cuss out their professors for any reason to disrupt the education I'm paying for...
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« Reply #2078 on: June 18, 2017, 04:35:38 PM »

reading the recent posts re: students, begs the question, are students the new 'fascists'?
and is fascism devoid of it's historical meaning?
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« Reply #2079 on: June 19, 2017, 04:02:03 AM »

and is fascism devoid of it's historical meaning?

Yes. I had a debate with a friend about this in the 1990's because she insisted on calling Pauline Hanson and her party "fascist", and I made the mistake of trying to correct her. That did not end well. When people are just throwing words like "fascist" and "nazi" around because of emotional gusto we may as well chuck in meaning all together. The kids aren't new fascists, they're new Humpty Dumpty's, changing the meaning of words to fit whatever post-adolescent genetic rage their bodies are going through.

The problem is they're being taken seriously instead of being slapped down and told to shut up and stop disrupting classes for the students who want to learn. If the people running these institutions are too gutless to actually run these places properly for fear of being called "racist" they may as well quit and hand the unis over to these ratbags. Let them run these places. Let them create their little safe-space, people-of-colour utopias. See how long they last.
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« Reply #2080 on: June 19, 2017, 01:14:16 PM »


Feel the Wrath of Rickles!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqXoFFoqouM
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« Reply #2081 on: June 19, 2017, 04:55:36 PM »

usual question - what do you mean by fascism?

to me Fascism is exactly a specific historical movement, with a specific (yet complex) ideology, different from national socialism (despite evident exchange), with a specific vision of the world and destiny

Donald Trump is not fascist, as Margaret Tatcher, Ronnie reagan, silvio berlusconi, stalin, ted nugent, peter steele, harley flanagan, the conservative party,  etc. were not fascists.







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« Reply #2082 on: June 19, 2017, 09:07:43 PM »

Donald Trump is not fascist, as Margaret Tatcher, Ronnie reagan, silvio berlusconi, stalin, ted nugent, peter steele, harley flanagan, the conservative party,  etc. were not fascists.

try to exlplain that to some pc-correct students and see what happens... i bet you know it already.








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« Reply #2083 on: June 19, 2017, 10:19:52 PM »



To further that point, I'd hope that folks 'round here are bright enough not to overlook the distiction/bright enough not to make such a silly sweeping generalization. Along those lines, there are some conservatives in America who don't see Donald Trump, Dick Cheney, and that ilk as conservatives or even Republicans in the traditional sense, I think the term "neo-conservative" tends to work.

Also, the kids discussed in those videos and such aren't the "new fascists," just belligerent and unwilling to compromise. They all seem to fit into the vague category of socialists/"general leftists," if I had to categorize them.

 The idea has generally been that when one pursues an academic education, one of the main purposes is to interact with views and people different from yourself/your own sensibilities as a way of approaching "the real world." The young folks without tolerance for other views etc are just trying to forge a path in life that caters to them, under the guise of "noble" political intentions. It has more to do with them being confused about politics and wanting affirmation and validation out of life in general than an actual shift in prevailing social opinions on a wider scale, even if they do feel they're in the right or in the majority.

 It's their sense of entitlement that makes their views dangerous, being that they actually expect things to go their way... those who complain loudest are generally held in higher esteem in a liberal society than those with a practical solution, compromise, or, well, common sense.

Throwing around terms like "fascist," "racist," "white supremacy" etc are just part of the current en vogue lingo to smear an opponent's views or argument as inherently invalid, being that those are the opposite postions to those kids on the axiom. It's a logical fallacy, obviously, but in a buzz-word driven world, it's easier to overlook or ignore something because you see the dreaded words pop up in conjuction with it, regardless of how much or little they might apply. It's just the new way of condemning something via association, and lazily so, which is why I won't call those whiny kids "fascists." They have more in common with the 50s McCarthyite "red scare" than anyone like Julius Evola, Mussolini, etc, but that's in terms of mentality, not proximity of ideology.
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« Reply #2084 on: June 23, 2017, 07:15:19 PM »

This is Fascism:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wjq99z/why-cant-my-famous-gender-nonconforming-friends-get-laid

Sexual fascism:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/an-open-letter-to-gay-white-men-no-youre-not-allowed_us_5947f0ffe4b0f7875b83e459
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