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« on: June 30, 2012, 05:14:09 PM »



Original Japanese book 1977, Finnish version published by Otava 1983 under name "Hiroshiman Tuli - Eloonjääneiden piirroksia". (meaning: Fire of Hiroshima - Pictures by Survivors)

http://www.hanamiweb.com/gokaomita.html



It is intense, but unlike all the perverse murder and savagery in general, it ain't amusing at all. Simply very bleak and very intense. The book is selected c. 100 drawings by ordinary people who experienced the bombing, with their own story of the devastating moment.

I guess there is a photo book of Dresden bombing called Brandstätten. Anyone seen that?

Curious historical events targeting most of all civilians? Also always remains interesting to view who are the parties involved in most lethal activities and who will apologize and who will not.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio

Curious detail of Hiroshima bombing is that population of the city believed that due large number of buddhist in city was reason for Hiroshima not being bombed regularly unlike most Japanese cities, but it was later revealed that their city was saved only for scientific purposes: To be able to measure the devastating power of nuclear weapons.
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 01:49:44 PM »

There are many books about Dresden.  Upon moving there I had bought one in the beginning. Probably one like this


What makes murder and savagery more amusing than this?
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 04:25:48 PM »

Related and only made available in 2010 - first US military reports on Hiroshima bombing:

http://cryptome.org/2012/06/hiroshima-megadeath.pdf

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 04:25:57 PM »

That's the book I meant. Good?

Murder and savagery has often personal, somehow perverse angle. Or homicides, which in their spontaneous elements can be even like black humor.
Or political assasination, with accurately executed target with purpose. Which is basically combat situation at purest.

But, at some moment, sheer magnitude of mass genocide or utmost cold and calculated extermination can remove the possibility of easy cheap amusement. Monolithic dimensions of pure statistics. And we talk of situation what is not about people in position of at least theoretical revolt against oppressor, but the bomb from the sky like hand of god.
It doesn't mean it would not be interesting. This monolith can be worth worship or disgust.

 
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 06:29:28 PM »

Philip Best stated in 1998 that the test at Trinity on July 16 1945 was 'the day the world ended' and that our experience of time and space has been irrevocably altered and impaired since that day. For those of a certain age who lived through dangerous parts of the cold war (early 60s and early 80s especially) it's a difficult thing to explain to younger generations.
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 07:18:50 PM »

As a little kid, probably sometime 82-83 or such, I was in anti-nuclear weapons demonstration. Not that it was my choice or I would have understood much, but still remember it. Masses of people of the city entered to put small rafts covered with candles floating in Vuoksi, in dark evening.
Don't know if much of that is happening now in Finland. It seems that the "activism" is the work of "activists". Not what simply the common general public of small town would feel relevant to attend.
Back then nuclear threat was real. Not to mention living like 4km from Russian border.

I think the logic is one of interesting phenomenas. what is warcrime, what is justified punishment or reply to offenses of foreign nation. Who it should be targeted etc.
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 11:56:53 PM »

That's the book I meant. Good?

I don't think I have this particular book, but something similar (at my parents house), also with many pictures of the destruction and eye witness reports, etc.  Sounds like it was literally hell on earth, people suffocating on the streets, because fire consumed all the oxygen and no real possible body count since people just burnt to ash.
I'm sure there are some good books about Berlin '45 as well.
The German magazine Geo Epoche also had an episode about the WW I with some pretty good trench pictures in it.
The expressionless faces depict what these men went through



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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2012, 02:35:08 AM »

England football chant song directed towards Germany: "THERE'S ONLY ONE BOMBER HARRIS" refers explicitly to Dresden bombing. Cruel, cold, brutish. Damn I hate sport.
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« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2012, 10:09:13 AM »

I always thought it funny how England could make theses WW jokes and Germany had no humor whatsoever about it
Two World Wars and One World Cup.....
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« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2012, 11:21:32 AM »

Perhaps there should be a joke topic, hah. For incorrect jokes only - as they remain the funniest.
I recall couple of years ago guy got sentence for having section of "hateful jokes" in his vast joke collection site. Someone was too offended.

Q: How do you fit 50 jews in volkswagen?
A: 2 in front, 3 in back, 45 in ashtray.

Making fun of mass genocide just opposed to what was mentioned before ;)
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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2012, 12:32:40 PM »

how high was the sentence?


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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2012, 12:34:48 PM »

and for the sake of not just hitting on one minority


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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 03:50:37 PM »

Q: What do you tell a woman with two black eyes?
A: Nothing, you already told her twice.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 05:07:51 PM »



Original Japanese book 1977, Finnish version published by Otava 1983 under name "Hiroshiman Tuli - Eloonjääneiden piirroksia". (meaning: Fire of Hiroshima - Pictures by Survivors)


where did you find this? jostain antikvariaatista vai miten?
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 05:54:32 PM »

Ye, I found this from 2nd hand bookstore. It's old release, as said. Is stamped "for reviews" so originally given to someone as promo. I would suspect you find it 2nd hand pretty easy. Huuto.net should have right now 10 euro?
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