Bastard Noise

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Zeno Marx

Quote from: holy ghost on February 11, 2018, 04:14:26 AMLive at Fiesta Grande would be a real treat if the whole set was recorded?
I got into a conversation about this elsewhere, and it sure seems likely.  There should be all kinds of live soundboards for those fests somewhere.  What a gold mine!  If such a thing exists, I hope it doesn't disappear to tape rot before it gets unearthed.  If they exist, I'd bet they're all on cassettes.
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absurdexposition

Quote from: holy ghost on February 11, 2018, 04:14:26 AM
Doomed Extinction was a really great DLP

Best era of BN in my opinion. Rogue Astronaut is peak performance.

Quote from: Zeno Marx on February 11, 2018, 05:56:05 AM
Quote from: holy ghost on February 11, 2018, 04:14:26 AMLive at Fiesta Grande would be a real treat if the whole set was recorded?
I got into a conversation about this elsewhere, and it sure seems likely.  There should be all kinds of live soundboards for those fests somewhere.  What a gold mine!  If such a thing exists, I hope it doesn't disappear to tape rot before it gets unearthed.  If they exist, I'd bet they're all on cassettes.

There is complete video footage of Fiesta Grande #1 (Assuck / MITB / Crossed Out / Cap Cas / Plutocracy / No Comment). Greg Heiman has a lot of stuff, a lot of it he filmed himself. He was around for it all and relatively recently was roommates with Wood until that, unsurprisingly (and unfortunately), ended poorly and he is now MIA. I was always trying to arrange trades with him for some footage or audio but it never panned out. The only hope for that stuff surfacing now is perhaps whatever may be uncovered during the making of this power violence documentary.
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holy ghost

#17
At one point there was supposed to be a MITB documentary, so there must be better quality footage lurking about somewhere. I suppose this shalt never see the light of day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZrGcomnNTM

There's a somewhat poor quality rip of Fiesta Grande #1 on the ol' YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuJCaxnjqA&t=204s

And this is a FANTASTIC set, another low quality rip but how great is this performance, shame it's split into four parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g75bcfNsW3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omJzVTOp17M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kwm0vvKOhc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cagnbUS9BFo

If y'all are in need of any of the vinyl only stuff that is difficult to find my old pal Stormy dig a great collection of vinyl rips if you scroll down a bit on this link: http://bloggedquartered.blogspot.ca/2017/03/

Decrepitude

Quote from: holy ghost on February 11, 2018, 04:14:26 AM
I enjoyed select collabs on the Earths Blood IV but it is a lot to get through. IIRC the tracks with Government Alpha and Clew of Theseus stood out. But not a set I go to often for the sheer length of it.

I have really enjoyed the longer collabs and live stuff that's been surfacing lately. Doomed Extinction was a really great DLP, the Live in Japan series of tapes and the Earths Blood V were quite good. And the 7" with Hiroshi Hasegawa/Government Alpha was also something I liked.

The MITB Live LP that came out on Deep Six was also excellent, I think from 1992 Sum of the amen era? It was great to hear the banter between songs. I'd LOVE if some other live stuff surfaced. Live at Fiesta Grande would be a real treat if the whole set was recorded?

What's the name of that live LP? Sounds like something I need.

I still haven't got the Our Earth's Blood IV box but I got to get it at some point. I get the criticisms but for me MITB/BN is just so appealing in every way that even the non-essential stuff is very interesting to me.

Zeno Marx

"the overindulgent machines were their children"
I only buy vinyl, d00ds.


holy ghost

Quote from: Decrepitude on February 11, 2018, 07:45:28 PMI still haven't got the Our Earth's Blood IV box but I got to get it at some point. I get the criticisms but for me MITB/BN is just so appealing in every way that even the non-essential stuff is very interesting to me.

I'm an unapologetic fan, and try to pick up whatever I can. I think between BN/MITB I have about 80-90 releases so like, why stop now? It's a maddening hobby.

Zeno Marx

Quote from: holy ghost on February 11, 2018, 08:58:52 PM
Quote from: Decrepitude on February 11, 2018, 07:45:28 PMI still haven't got the Our Earth's Blood IV box but I got to get it at some point. I get the criticisms but for me MITB/BN is just so appealing in every way that even the non-essential stuff is very interesting to me.
I'm an unapologetic fan, and try to pick up whatever I can. I think between BN/MITB I have about 80-90 releases so like, why stop now? It's a maddening hobby.
Agreed.  The one problem with it is one I'm experiencing now.  If you get a little behind, you find yourself many releases behind.  If you take even a year off, you find you're way behind.  My "want" list is overwhelming at this point.

Clew of Theseus is underrated in general.  He did some really fine work.  What's he doing now?
"the overindulgent machines were their children"
I only buy vinyl, d00ds.

absurdexposition

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Zeno Marx

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Quote from: absurdexposition on February 11, 2018, 09:25:11 PM
Quote from: Zeno Marx on February 11, 2018, 09:09:42 PMClew of Theseus is underrated in general.  He did some really fine work.  What's he doing now?
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http://www.special-interests.net/forum/index.php?topic=174.msg69802#msg69802
Thanks.  Didn't realize he had devolved into a ripoff like that.  Never, ever like to hear that kind of bullshit.  The Bastard Noise box situation...yeah, yikes about all of that.  Expectations are demons.  As for the rest, with hindsight, I can see how he could be a volatile person.  Sharp as a whip, but potentially unpredictable and whip cracking. I assumed he was working on, or finished with, his PhD.

It's funny how this scene can get ruffled when someone takes their violence, be it physical or emotional or verbal, to life; considering that's a substantial amount of what is alluded to in lyrics, art, etc.  Shows how we are no less fickle than any other subset or demographic.  "You've gone too far!"  Huh?

*edited to make sense
"the overindulgent machines were their children"
I only buy vinyl, d00ds.

yosef666

Quote from: Zeno Marx on February 11, 2018, 05:56:05 AM
Quote from: holy ghost on February 11, 2018, 04:14:26 AMLive at Fiesta Grande would be a real treat if the whole set was recorded?
I got into a conversation about this elsewhere, and it sure seems likely.  There should be all kinds of live soundboards for those fests somewhere.  What a gold mine!  If such a thing exists, I hope it doesn't disappear to tape rot before it gets unearthed.  If they exist, I'd bet they're all on cassettes.
I have this tape:

https://www.discogs.com/Man-Is-The-Bastard-Live-Fiesta-Grande-15/release/6776840

Good sound quality, great sets.
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FreakAnimalFinland

Quote from: Zeno Marx on February 11, 2018, 09:44:16 PM
It's funny how this scene can get ruffled when someone takes their violence, be it physical or emotional or verbal, to life; considering that's a substantial amount of what is alluded to in lyrics, art, etc.  Shows how we are no less fickle than any other subset or demographic.  "You've gone too far!"  Huh?

In general, probably not less fickle, but from perspective, what I see happening is people are not reacting in a way of "you're gone too far!". But rather... well, grown up man, with pHd. Rants in facebook like a kid, yelling obscenities and hiding under "free speech". Come on... It's not about "gone too far", but quite the opposite. Becoming a norm. Rejecting anything what was actually counter cultural force in them, transforming into 1:1 with prevailing mindset and social media norm. So absolutely, not going too far, but regressing into bs.

How about getting that Eric Lunde tape box done that C.Process hoarded to bending releases like 10 years ago, instead focusing on re-tweeting president like everybody else....? pfff...

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Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on February 10, 2018, 09:29:36 AM
One can take a look message above for something said c. 6 years ago. I still stand still in same state of mind.

Quote from: FreakAnimalFinland on June 11, 2012, 10:14:54 PM
This original early style of short innovative tracks, unique take on lyrics/graphics/presentation, etc. It is what made the big impact. I do value their later works as well, but I think some of the original feel has been lost when tracks have extended lengths and similar tones/oscillations used over and over again.

I greatly appreciate the latest Bastard Noise / Outermost collaboration 7". It proved once again that Bastard Noise is at its best in 7" format, and perhaps also: collaborations.

That said, if this and the Outermost collaboration mark highlights among Bastard Noise collaborations, maybe project is going for better direction? Lets hope so!

Not to derail the thread but I'd say that's because Kei Yokota is also a genius who probably deserves his own thread on here as well. From Outermost to Scab, Invader From Mars or Deadly Verity (and all the other stuff he put out on Cat Move), he sure knows how to make great music...
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Galactic Plagve

#29
The X 5 CD set is certainly underwhelming; it has its moments but essentially amounts to nothing more than a compilation of random collaborations with no kind of unifying theme.

For me BN were at their best during the early Wiese / Wood period. The old analog sound was elevated by Wiese's digital manipulations and for the period really stood out as something quite fresh; the longer 'Space Drone' pieces are the BN tracks which I most often return to.

In my opinion the more recent stuff suffers from an over use of the Trogotronic equipment. The insistence on the core sound being based these instruments is what seems to hold the project back from pushing its creativity and developing a direction away from stagnation.

Recently picked up the BN / Sickness collaboration and Doomed Expedition, the latter being rather good. Recorded live at No Fun Fest 2009 I believe, straight through the mixing desk by Chris Goudreau, it sounds massive and Wood's performance stands out as visceral and vibrant and gives life to the bass heavy, rhythmic electronics - it's funny how Nelson's own personal equipment sounds far superior to any of his stock pieces; maybe it's just the way he utilises them... hmm.