Hip hop / rap

Started by ImpulsyStetoskopu, June 09, 2012, 12:56:26 PM

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Scat-O-Logy

I think the vocal samples kinda ruined the previous album. There were only few good tracks on it. Just ordered "The Money Store". Now looking for "NLDW" with no results (in deep web). In case someone knows where to get that record, please let me know.

icepick method

Glad i didn't already buy tickets for that NIN/Soundgarden tour Death Grips were supposed to be opening for.
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RG

Opening for NIN/Soundgarden would just be weird...didn't fit the feel of this band at all. Maybe this was how they planned it out, get big enough to attract worldwide attention and then kill it off to leave people forever wanting more. Left Reznor looking like a fool when he had to apologize (on twitter) for Death Grips pulling out.

ConcreteMascara

Quote from: RG on July 07, 2014, 08:36:22 PM
Opening for NIN/Soundgarden would just be weird...didn't fit the feel of this band at all. Maybe this was how they planned it out, get big enough to attract worldwide attention and then kill it off to leave people forever wanting more. Left Reznor looking like a fool when he had to apologize (on twitter) for Death Grips pulling out.

i think it just makes Death Grips look even more like assholes. it's fucking rockstar ego without any accomplishment to back it up. fuck. that. shit
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Half Aborted

Surprised to see no mention of Clipping. Sometimes the lyrics are really bad and wouldn't be out of place in any awful chart hip-hop (other times they're pretty good, so perhaps this is some deliberate ironic juxtaposition), but the sounds used are very interesting. Sometimes very harsh electronic noise, plenty of musique concrete techniques in every track, which are done very, very well. The MC is very proficient too, often rapping in time to seemingly very arrhythmic and unmusical sounds. They haven't quite lived up to their potential yet but I feel they certainly could produce something truly great at some stage. One of their tracks even samples Deathpile, they're clearly very well versed in all the genres they're influenced by.

Scat-O-Logy

QuoteVinyl pressing of "No Love Deep Web"
...is available again at Amazon. Grabbed it!

Jaakko V.

Are the guys from Clipping doing any pure noise projects? Obviously they know their ropes.

Live show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nibVU1RjAM

I'd usually think "noise rap" to mean something with a bit of digital distortion, but here we have actual noise happening...

Hakaristi

Seems one member operated as Rale and more recently, Anthracite, with releases on Monorail Trespassing, Heavy Psych and Joy De Vivre among others.

HONOR_IS_KING!

Freddie Gibbs "Pinata" is currently what I'm spinning. Heavy street tales weaved around beautiful soul samples.

I also, really, really enjoy Sean Price "Mic Tyson". Toughest hip hop album I've ever heard with lyrics that I'm still trying to figure out. His use of slang and play on words is excellent.
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Bloated Slutbag

#129
That Clipping. vocalist really lets down the team.

If they can't get a better spitter they might want to go the Walter Gross route, namely sampling vocals into his industrial beatscapes. Dear Dirt McGirt is probably the heaviest thing I've heard associated with hip hop, more like a death industrial type thing featuring an amalgamation of Wolf Eyes and the late gent in the project title. I confess I'm completely unfamiliar with Wolf Eyes and it may be weird to ask here (or not), but if they have anything along these lines I'd love to hear it. Any recommendations?

https://waltergross.bandcamp.com/track/im-rollin-wit-u
https://waltergross.bandcamp.com/track/ripper
https://waltergross.bandcamp.com/track/rollin-choppd

Here's a better sense of what Clipping. might do if they ditched the rapper, definitely what gangsta rap would sound like in a perfect world:

https://waltergross.bandcamp.com/track/three-kings-wg-slim-thuggin

Walter Gross project with K-The-I??? called Youth:Kill is also pretty good, about as unwieldly as one might hope of this rap shit.
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag

Bloated Slutbag

Quote from: Bloated Slutbag on June 11, 2015, 02:30:55 AM
That Clipping. vocalist really lets down the team.

Not that one's ability to spit / technique necessarily makes the shit more listenable. The atmosphere of the unit is at least as important.

A good example would be Jimmy Greek

http://jimmygreek.bandcamp.com/track/give-you-a-taste-featuring-carl-kavorkian

This guy makes me laugh, sounding like he spits his load in between swigs off a bottle of something awful. Said to be postal service employee and pretty much sounds like it, in more ways than one.

ditto Dave Dub & The Sutter Cain Gang

https://davedub.bandcamp.com/track/disco-tech-threat
https://davedub.bandcamp.com/track/if-i-see-the-pigs
https://davedub.bandcamp.com/track/beautiful-bitches

Probably not swigging off a bottle of anything, just in-artful rambling shit. It's all in the delivery.
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag

Cementimental

Clipping were pretty great fun live at least, he may not be the best MC but gave a good performance.

It's old news in internet music but I just discovered Viper recently :D Strangely listenable and he's the Merzbow of mixtapes, there are 100s tho I can't find a definitive discography

https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/viper_f4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl0uFtClAmw

icepick method

Death Grips is currently touring and actually playing normal shows now, going to see them oct. 9th in south florida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUhJ1a6rrRM
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HongKongGoolagong

Quote from: Jordan on June 22, 2012, 01:50:22 AM
HongKongGoolagong - It's funny that you like The Chronic but avoided Snoop Doggy Dogg, as his first album is almost exactly the same as The Chronic

Dre showed a centimetre's worth of sensitivity in the lyrics which the idiotic Dogg omitted. I know the man who invented the term Power Electronics feels differently - http://africanpaper.com/2013/03/30/at-the-core-of-cut-hands-there-is-darkness-and-there-are-rhythms-beyond-that-anything%E2%80%99s-really-possible-interview-with-william-bennett/ - but I just can't stand Snoop's old dumbed down demeanour and how he reminded me of thuggish idiots I'd avoid in real life.

It's very very old school indeed and right at the start of the genre but Afrika Bambaataa's 'Death Mix' still sounds immense to me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtsVMJAXkv8 - I remember using this as a playout piece in a Smell & Quim show that ended in trouble as usual, Leeds Common Place '07, walking in the other room to get dressed again having been naked, having another member come in showing me all the blood on him, both laughing, walking back in the gig room in civvies and turning off the sound input which by then was pure Bambaataa, hearing the applause from drunks.

Bloated Slutbag

#134
It's becoming increasingly obvious to me, via sites like Bring That Beat Back (kind of an Industrial Recollections for hip hop heads), that we all- all us of the rather specialized musical interests- completely missed the boat on hip hop.

http://beetbak.blogspot.com

But it's as obvious that matters not as The Future is now Past. The boat was made to be missed. Hip hop is long dead. Long animate the festering corpse.

I am particularly enamored of a group of artists operating in the late 90s under the name Imprints. One Tommy V seems to be credited with a great deal of the actual sound but this is seriously great. Very rough, raw, looow-fi, scratchy, but also quite creative layering of sounds. The MCing is adventurous and unique for the most part, not the slightest hint of bragging, bling, bitches, etc. This truly was "real" hip hop; the shit that the industry obviously completely ignored in an effort to market the shit to the suburban white kids. (A pet theory, I'll concede, but I'll wager an uncontroversial one.) That much of this is archived from very poor quality tape, hissy as fuck, massively adds to the charm. Appeals in more ways than one to the Zoviet Frenchy in me... maybe.

Imprints - Homeless Tea Party 1998: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBqXcqkeO9SY2QKXcw1n2c4xhs4MuLrsk

But this goes beyond Imprints. The pool of contributing artists seems at once impossibly deep, and incestuously close, much of it seemingly concentrated on the West Coast of the US, possibly revolving largely around the Shapeshifters collective, also including people like Joe Dubb and Dave Dub mentioned earlier in this thread. I rather suspect that there are huge mounds of such shit out there, all of it abandoned by starry-eyed suckaz bamboozled by the commercial pop machine and the empty promise for anyone with two turntables and a microphone. (Whoops. Snuck in my pet theory again, sorry bout that.) What's interesting (or not! re- pet theory) is when you catch up with what some of these characters were doing more recently, including the above-mentioned Tommy V, and the results are shockingly inferior, plastic, simplistic in scope and completely lacking in the amazing levels of creativity flowing through the works of yesteryear. Was it talent, fluke, some weird shit in the air? I dunno, but all I gotta say is: Bring that beat back!

A more solidified, more recent, re-presentation of the above might be via a group like Kill The Vultures. Again, employing old scratchy (blues) records but infused with a kind of stripped back punk aesthetic. Also, these guys are clearly possessed of genuine talent.

Kill the Vultures - Moonshine: http://youtu.be/p9zUol0oCpY
Kill the Vultures - Wine Thief: http://youtu.be/qro--6J7Gos

A current boat that may or may not blossom into trend proper: hip hop informed more by the likes of Godflesh and (early) Swans than RnB or whatever. Slowed down heavy percussion, slowed down vocals. Kind of what you'd get if Gira tried to make a hip hop album in the 80s. (Actually maybe Gira did- he called it "Greed". He then called it "Holy Money" in case you weren't paying attention.) One potential contender in this stream is Moodie Black. Would be cool if there were others working in the vein.

http://noiserap.com/track/b
http://noiserap.com/track/m-a-r-r-o-w

Also:
The Bug - 'Fat Mac' ft. Flowdan: http://youtu.be/a3FqlHa3Vwc

'Course, Kevin Martin has worked with Broadrick so no stretch here.
Someone weaker than you should beat you and brag
And take you for a drag