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« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2021, 08:09:12 PM »

Really need to cop that new Sun Hing Lung release - any European distros?
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« Reply #61 on: November 29, 2021, 08:11:23 PM »

Really need to cop that new Sun Hing Lung release - any European distros?

I wish!

Episode 6 with Pat Yankee of PARANOID TIME out now!!!

https://youtu.be/aT10fGJdg8Q
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« Reply #62 on: November 29, 2021, 11:33:21 PM »

As Phage Tapes touched upon, what are smaller labels going to do now that PayPal is going to report everything over $600 total sales?  I believe this has been the case for a while now?  But now with more online sites charging state sales tax and the mailorder loopholes closing, how are the smaller labels handling taxes?  Filing and getting tax ID#s?    Now that things can be so quickly linked and shown as actual business practices and retail sales, what's the atmosphere out there?
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« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2021, 10:40:48 AM »

(Barely podcast related talk, but lets keep it here unless takes too much space on topic)

This has been case in Finland already for years, I think. When Paypal officially came to finland, so to say, now money traffic is something that local tax office is being informed. I don't know whether the small noise labels has much to worry, when there is like endless amount of air bnb operating on grey zone. People making good money with it, in very different level than selling noise, hah..

But can it happen? Sure. I know cases, where private person selling hobby label stuff is asked to produce evidence where money is coming from. And official companies, who had not done all the paperwork top notch. It can become problem, if you are suddenly being asked several years worth of back taxes, you simply can't afford.

I know one case in Finland, what was solved simply by explaining that it is private record collection gradually being sold away. Even if in reality it would be also label activities. Latter one may be always seen as "business", regardless is it profitable. First option is something that there usually is certain level of private sales one can do without being obligated to taxes. It is unlikely they will hunt every discogs seller, but they seem to be very very interested to solve the "illegal hotel business", so to say.

However, there are lots of news articles about the change, where for example EU tries to fight "grey economy". It makes all your possessions visible to authorities. New bank laws being enforced, and over here you get calls, letters etc for proving identity, giving all details of what you do, how you do it, etc. Banks are obligated to know their customers and how and why money moves. Also the changing postal regulations are connected. When they imposed the new regulations that everything outside EU will go to customs and you need to pay taxes, it was said to be because of "massive ongoing tax fraud". This meant that anything coming from china, was simply marked to be 20 euro or less value and it would pass without taxes.

Perhaps some knows that since last summer, new VAT system became active, so now we pay the value added tax not to country where you operate, but the destination. Order comes from sweden, I need to pay taxes to sweden. pff... Guys who hate paperwork, I guess future will be more and more miserable. Every transaction needs to be reported. If you do not report your EU taxes, penalty is 100euro a week. Even if you'd pay in time, but was a bit late with paper work, you'll be paying hard...
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« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2021, 11:17:32 AM »

Podcast related. Good one again. It is really the harsh noise talk, so podcast doesn't go that deep into any theme, concept or such, but stays on noise. I like this episode a lot for the: anecdotes! That whole machete story was funny. This is one thing, what made some interviews like Bananafish legendary, as they included something I would call noise folklore.

Funny, strange, obscure stories, what gives the noise the context. What type of characters there operates, what types of people are drawn into it, what shapes their noise. I think that is vastly more crucial than what pedal one uses. Although, in Paranoid Time episode the rat -pedal talk was funny. I think there is also difference with old rat and the rat you can buy these days? For example Pain Nail uses quite often the old vintage RAT pedal. It is really dirty and savage pedal. It may not be best for massive harsh blast, but for decayed bleak industrial sound, certainly works better than Death Metal or Metalzone pedals, for example. I have been told new RAT doesn't have same sound anymore as the original, even if they claim it is "largely the same"?

Well, anyways, the noise folklore, sort of unwritten stories you know, heard of, or experienced and told forward, that is something what could be good topic. I think some more nasty stuff, maybe be something that people involved do not want to be recognized for. Nevertheless, these stories are sort of juice of noise. As great as the bands are, I am sure they would be thought differently, if Mikawa was not banker. If early Hijokaidan stage chaos did not happen. If John Duncan didn't do certain performances. If Mayuko Hino would have not been bondage related. If Whitehouse didn't have "riots", haha. Metgumbnerbone crawling in sewers, and so on and on. There is countless anecdotes from contemporary noise (say 2000's) which basically never are "told" in same ways as the good old folklore. I would say that this seems to be one element why bands/artists seem distant? When just about every trip to noise gig had something odd noise related happening, that would contribute to kind of understanding artists urges or the "climate", the spirit and surroundings, and there would be stories that are as nice as Hanatarishi driving the... thing. Yet Hanatarashi is the folklore everybody knows.

Related story, it was really funny when SNOTNOSED played with Emil B, Prurient and so on back in... 2008? something like that. 2nd floor of normal pub. Full carpets on the floors, UK style, nice restaurant type of thing. Snotnosed starts to break glass into his forehead, bleeding, making acoustic havoc on place where it was totally unexpected. Suddenly pulling out full sized slegdehammer, and hitting it with full power to the floor. You could feel entire huge building tremble and I was sure this is it. Show will be over, and there's no way it could continue. It did. No biggie. Full room of people dining downstairs and broken glass and sledgehammers upstairs as if someone is tearing the place apart... haha...

Like mentioned thing, that PE has the dark subject/concepts, and people taking it too seriously.. hmm. I am not sure about that. I know what it means, but when being somewhere in Europe, seeing PE singer sniffing fresh shemale panties he just purchased. Not only for the show, but just for personal pleasures... Even when just minding his own business, you could see him just once in a while pulling them out of the pocket and sniffing the piss soaked panties.. dark? I doubt it! Hilarious stuff. Bunch of guys blurting out "hey, you're sniffing some guys piss there", and man just diving face first into wet panties. Full story probably can't be told in way it would be as funny as it is. When knowing the noise work that is related to this, and bunch of anecdotes that tell a bit from where this material emerges, it seems to give more perspective than knowing that they may use "SP-202 and delay".

I don't think any podcast would need to start blasting some noise drama, nor be therapy sessions, nor to glorify "unacceptable behavior", but I think one knows what I mean with the anecdotes, noise folklore, I hope more of that. There is so much of it what could give life to the somewhat anonymous and distant works.

This episode was good in a way, that instead of interview, it was partly also like discussion. Oskar telling the machete story in full length. I think this type of approach would probably direct talk to good things.



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« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2021, 12:20:55 AM »


Although, in Paranoid Time episode the rat -pedal talk was funny. I think there is also difference with old rat and the rat you can buy these days? For example Pain Nail uses quite often the old vintage RAT pedal. It is really dirty and savage pedal. It may not be best for massive harsh blast, but for decayed bleak industrial sound, certainly works better than Death Metal or Metalzone pedals, for example. I have been told new RAT doesn't have same sound anymore as the original, even if they claim it is "largely the same"?6


No need to get into mega nerdy talk but yeah, the variations between Rat models come from changing a few components on the circuit (which is pretty much the same one in all versions.) Sometimes the difference is subtle, sometimes not so much. When it comes to the OG Rat model, the sound difference is subtle but it's there. Does it justify the difference in price? My deaf ears say no haha.

Also, Rat clones are cool because they often offer extra switches that allow you to try different types of Rat versions on the same pedal. Rats are also very easy to modify, which is fun. I turned my regular Rat into a Turbo Rat by switching two components, and I also added an extra potentiometer in order to make it sound better with bass.



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« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2021, 12:31:06 AM »

Turbo Rat

I have to say I don't love mine. A funny anecdote about why I have it though is because a distortion pedal died on while I was on tour with my previous band and I needed a last minute replacement. The closet guitar shop to the venue didn't have much selection, and I chose the Turbo Rat because it was almost the "Paranoid Time" pedal, ha.
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« Reply #67 on: December 01, 2021, 01:33:54 AM »

If you want to know about all the variations of Rat pedals over the years, check out JHS on youtube.

https://youtu.be/B_jtDX1_FZg
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« Reply #68 on: December 01, 2021, 03:35:43 AM »

Paranoid Time was a big reason why I picked up a Rat pedal. A handful of my friends did as well as we were all inspired by what sounds PT was making. Funny how its all mostly for looks!
I was lucky to see him play at the last Summer Scum and it was definitely the best set of the weekend. Pure raw energy. He brings out the best in the crowd. I’ve seen him at a couple of house venues too and its the same consistent energy.
Echoing what was said earlier - more anecdotes! The Mania episode that SI Podcast did, for example, was full of Keith stories. Shedding some light on a mysterious character. There’s plenty of replay value in that.
Great episode, Oskar. These have been nice to look forward to as the work week creeps in.
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« Reply #69 on: December 01, 2021, 02:55:39 PM »

my favorite part was the Sun Hing Lung advert :D
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« Reply #70 on: December 01, 2021, 07:13:23 PM »

Great episode with Paranoid Time! I love how he comes off in the interview: normal dude, a bit of a goofball, not shy about explaining the 'secrets' behind his sounds nor afraid to fully own up to how simple his ideas and influences are. I think there has been a nice pattern throughout the podcast of the subjects being really generous with that kind of info and trying to let the audience know that what they do is not some kind of rocket science or big mystery.

I definitely fucked up when it came to checking out his music when I first heard of it. At a time when I was dismissive of most modern US noise, thinking it to just be loads of frowning ex-hardcore guys being intense, a project called Paranoid Time was the last thing I was going to bother listening to. What a huge mistake and stupid reading of the whole situation on my part! Still making up for it today, but such is life.

The things he had to say about his stage persona and the influences of wild noise rock frontmen and pro wrestling also really made me smile, as sometimes looking at PT vids I'd wonder 'is this guy serious?' and very much hope not. Subtle differences in intent can really be the fine line between a stage presence like that being the worst or the best. So cool to hear him talk a little bit about being into tongue in cheek, partially humorous styles of noise more so than the dour stuff I'd have once pre-judged his work to be. Totally spot on comment about how this aspect is writ large in classic acts like TNB. I for one am always up for more of that approach.
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« Reply #71 on: December 01, 2021, 09:18:34 PM »

Really enjoying listening to Paranoid Time.  I can only echo what others have written before - it is really fresh hearing artists talk candidly about their influences and methods, and it makes me want to dig into his back catalogue which I hope to do soon.
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« Reply #72 on: December 02, 2021, 12:08:29 AM »

my favorite part was the Sun Hing Lung advert :D
'don't get me started on the desserts'

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« Reply #73 on: December 02, 2021, 12:17:21 AM »

If you want to know about all the variations of Rat pedals over the years, check out JHS on youtube.

https://youtu.be/B_jtDX1_FZg

It's a cool video but he totally forgot the R2DU!
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« Reply #74 on: December 02, 2021, 12:23:02 AM »

Really need to cop that new Sun Hing Lung release - any European distros?

I wish!

Episode 6 with Pat Yankee of PARANOID TIME out now!!!

https://youtu.be/aT10fGJdg8Q
https://youtu.be/aT10fGJdg8Q
https://youtu.be/aT10fGJdg8Q

Haven't watched the podcast yet (time time time) but in conclusion to asking favorite noise recordings don't be afraid to ask for favorite movies too, as they seem to be a major influence for most noise guys :)
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