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AnonMessAgeSage

Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 09, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 09, 2020, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 08, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
Guys, please let's have a reasonable discussion here, as it's been said, we're undergoing a historical period (because literally everything that's happening is historical)! And AnonMessAgeSage predicted everything that happened until now, just ask their friends, so you better listen because if you selectively fabricate the facts yourself, you're always right!
Please, guys.

Oh, remember to look back on this post in the future, and we'll see how many things I predicted came true.

Be in denial. LOL
The only thing I'm in denial of is your intelligence. Wanna throw down some ca$h for a bet on any of your brave "predictions"? Let's see how delusional you really are!!
Get your panties out of a wad. You're being a fucking weirdo for no reason. After I even thanked you for your kind remarks earlier.
No, I don't need money. What, are we 6 years old? LMAO.
I'm pretty confident about my intelligence, so no worries. Calm the fuck down. I wasn't even bragging.
I can't make an observation without you being condescending jackass?
You sound pretty mad bro, are you okay? It's alright, not everybody has the guts to put money behind the bullshit their spouting, I understand. So you're either a troll (as I predicted) or a coward... or both?!
I don't give a fuck, you fucking fool. My predictions are all laid out in the thread, dipshit, reference back if you ACTUALLY give that much of a fuck.
I don't want your fucking money, and I DON'T give a FUCK if you approve of my views.
Post apocalyptic viewpoints must frighten you.
Truth hurts.

JLIAT

Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 03:25:00 PM

I don't give a fuck, you fucking fool. My predictions are all laid out in the thread, dipshit, reference back if you ACTUALLY give that much of a fuck.
I don't want your fucking money, and I DON'T give a FUCK if you approve of my views.
Post apocalyptic viewpoints must frighten you.
Truth hurts.

I've gone back over the thread, and the only prediction I can find of yours is that it seems the USA is heading towards some fundamental collapse. You agreed with the CIA / Marxist thing, which I admit I cant follow. So am I correct in your interpretation of apocalypse, and that it relates to the present situation in the USA? And the time frame, months, a couple of years?

BlackSunAndSteel

Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 09, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 09, 2020, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 08, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
Guys, please let's have a reasonable discussion here, as it's been said, we're undergoing a historical period (because literally everything that's happening is historical)! And AnonMessAgeSage predicted everything that happened until now, just ask their friends, so you better listen because if you selectively fabricate the facts yourself, you're always right!
Please, guys.

Oh, remember to look back on this post in the future, and we'll see how many things I predicted came true.

Be in denial. LOL
The only thing I'm in denial of is your intelligence. Wanna throw down some ca$h for a bet on any of your brave "predictions"? Let's see how delusional you really are!!
Get your panties out of a wad. You're being a fucking weirdo for no reason. After I even thanked you for your kind remarks earlier.
No, I don't need money. What, are we 6 years old? LMAO.
I'm pretty confident about my intelligence, so no worries. Calm the fuck down. I wasn't even bragging.
I can't make an observation without you being condescending jackass?
You sound pretty mad bro, are you okay? It's alright, not everybody has the guts to put money behind the bullshit their spouting, I understand. So you're either a troll (as I predicted) or a coward... or both?!
I don't give a fuck, you fucking fool. My predictions are all laid out in the thread, dipshit, reference back if you ACTUALLY give that much of a fuck.
I don't want your fucking money, and I DON'T give a FUCK if you approve of my views.
Post apocalyptic viewpoints must frighten you.
Truth hurts.
OMG, you're actually pathetic, replying to my posts constantly while saying you don't give a fuck, thereby clearly contradicting yourself... hilarious!!
YOUR truth hurts mate, cause its rooted in actual stupidity. You think you got all these inner workings figured out cause you skimmed through a couple of right wing history books, and now you have this grand insight into what will happen. PLEASE nostradamus2020, elighten us!! Referring us to your fucking friends "ha ha, if you don't believe me, just ask my friends, they'll tell you I'm right LMFAO!"
Well I am happy for you, I truly am, that you have friends that confirm your biases, because that's what friends are for right?! and they're probably even more stupid than you are because of this, so they have a lot to learn from you.
Morality interests me little with this.

To say that its not real, well then my guy I don't know how to explain all that expensive modular gear I got these days.

I'd rather dominate then be moral in the shadows living by a code thats looking to be outdated.

AnonMessAgeSage

Yeah, I basically believe there will be some major Marxist restructuring of society, modeled after WW1 Russian Leninism. How their was a major class struggle, which ultimately led to the deaths of the Romanovs and the usurping of power by the Communist party.

At the start of the lockdown, I there would eventually be riots because the economy would falter, leaving many jobless and hungry.
I also believe this is more or less, gonna happen in every country, at least the Western ones, because the lockdown and political agency by groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter would lead to civil unrest.
However, I feel the effects will be predominantly felt in America, because it is the most divisive nation around.

No matter who is the President, I feel it is impossible to fix the economy at this point.

So, I think we will will approach s dangerous situation where all Western powers basically fall, and the power structure will head East, to nations like Russia and China.

I am full-on expecting a post apocalyptic fallout situation. How soon? I would say, in five years' time the world will be drastically different.
I believe we will approaching a major social upheaval, unlike anything ever seen before.
I believe the damage is just only beginning.
Eventually there will be a third world war, and I see massive segments of the world population being culled.

There is absolutely no way the world will ever go back to what it was was 6 months ago. I don't see how we even could go back to the old world. The newest insanity is all this effort to totally defund all police. I don't care about the police, but the implications of such an effort are massive. Without police, civil militias will form to protect the local communities. We approaching a new era, and the world will never be the same.

I think we're heading back into the dark ages, truthfully.


AnonMessAgeSage

#229
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 09, 2020, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 03:25:00 PM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 09, 2020, 03:19:30 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 02:32:26 PM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 09, 2020, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: BlackSunAndSteel on June 08, 2020, 09:41:24 PM
Guys, please let's have a reasonable discussion here, as it's been said, we're undergoing a historical period (because literally everything that's happening is historical)! And AnonMessAgeSage predicted everything that happened until now, just ask their friends, so you better listen because if you selectively fabricate the facts yourself, you're always right!
Please, guys.

Oh, remember to look back on this post in the future, and we'll see how many things I predicted came true.

Be in denial. LOL
The only thing I'm in denial of is your intelligence. Wanna throw down some ca$h for a bet on any of your brave "predictions"? Let's see how delusional you really are!!
Get your panties out of a wad. You're being a fucking weirdo for no reason. After I even thanked you for your kind remarks earlier.
No, I don't need money. What, are we 6 years old? LMAO.
I'm pretty confident about my intelligence, so no worries. Calm the fuck down. I wasn't even bragging.
I can't make an observation without you being condescending jackass?
You sound pretty mad bro, are you okay? It's alright, not everybody has the guts to put money behind the bullshit their spouting, I understand. So you're either a troll (as I predicted) or a coward... or both?!
I don't give a fuck, you fucking fool. My predictions are all laid out in the thread, dipshit, reference back if you ACTUALLY give that much of a fuck.
I don't want your fucking money, and I DON'T give a FUCK if you approve of my views.
Post apocalyptic viewpoints must frighten you.
Truth hurts.
OMG, you're actually pathetic, replying to my posts constantly while saying you don't give a fuck, thereby clearly contradicting yourself... hilarious!!
YOUR truth hurts mate, cause its rooted in actual stupidity. You think you got all these inner workings figured out cause you skimmed through a couple of right wing history books, and now you have this grand insight into what will happen. PLEASE nostradamus2020, elighten us!! Referring us to your fucking friends "ha ha, if you don't believe me, just ask my friends, they'll tell you I'm right LMFAO!"
Well I am happy for you, I truly am, that you have friends that confirm your biases, because that's what friends are for right?! and they're probably even more stupid than you are because of this, so they have a lot to learn from you.
You are like a fucking bratty ass kid. Get a fucking hobby, desperately trying to get my attention.
Your intelligence is beneath mine, Karate Kid.
Get fucked.
What a butthurt waste of space you are. A literal fucking idiot. Mentally handicapped.

JLIAT

Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
Yeah, I basically believe there will be some major Marxist restructuring of society, modeled after WW1 Russian Leninism. How their was a major class struggle, which ultimately led to the deaths of the Romanovs and the usurping of power by the Communist party.

At the start of the lockdown, I there would eventually be riots because the economy would falter, leaving many jobless and hungry.
I also believe this is more or less, gonna happen in every country, at least the Western ones, because the lockdown and political agency by groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter would lead to civil unrest.
However, I feel the effects will be predominantly felt in America, because it is the most divisive nation around.

No matter who is the President, I feel it is impossible to fix the economy at this point.

So, I think we will will approach s dangerous situation where all Western powers basically fall, and the power structure will head East, to nations like Russia and China.

I am full-on expecting a post apocalyptic fallout situation. How soon? I would say, in five years' time the world will be drastically different.
I believe we will approaching a major social upheaval, unlike anything ever seen before.
I believe the damage is just only beginning.
Eventually there will be a third world war, and I see massive segments of the world population being culled.

There is absolutely no way the world will ever go back to what it was was 6 months ago. I don't see how we even could go back to the old world. The newest insanity is all this effort to totally defund all police. I don't care about the police, but the implications of such an effort are massive. Without police, civil militias will form to protect the local communities. We approaching a new era, and the world will never be the same.

I think we're heading back into the dark ages, truthfully.



Thanks for that, its fairly clear. I assume you are saying that the Covid-19 pandemic is not the cause of this apocalyptic event but a convenient pretext for those forces, maybe also the black lives matter - riots?

(in passing)
Also I notice on another thread your asking for book recommendation and Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book was offered. I cant do the maths & have issues with The Black Swan ideas... but have you come across Nick Land, he is now living in China, though taught in the UK and into Accelerationism... his collected works Fanged Noumena pub. urbanomic - bit of a crazy guy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Land

should give you some clue... 


AnonMessAgeSage

Quote from: JLIAT on June 09, 2020, 04:25:14 PM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
Yeah, I basically believe there will be some major Marxist restructuring of society, modeled after WW1 Russian Leninism. How their was a major class struggle, which ultimately led to the deaths of the Romanovs and the usurping of power by the Communist party.

At the start of the lockdown, I there would eventually be riots because the economy would falter, leaving many jobless and hungry.
I also believe this is more or less, gonna happen in every country, at least the Western ones, because the lockdown and political agency by groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter would lead to civil unrest.
However, I feel the effects will be predominantly felt in America, because it is the most divisive nation around.

No matter who is the President, I feel it is impossible to fix the economy at this point.

So, I think we will will approach s dangerous situation where all Western powers basically fall, and the power structure will head East, to nations like Russia and China.

I am full-on expecting a post apocalyptic fallout situation. How soon? I would say, in five years' time the world will be drastically different.
I believe we will approaching a major social upheaval, unlike anything ever seen before.
I believe the damage is just only beginning.
Eventually there will be a third world war, and I see massive segments of the world population being culled.

There is absolutely no way the world will ever go back to what it was was 6 months ago. I don't see how we even could go back to the old world. The newest insanity is all this effort to totally defund all police. I don't care about the police, but the implications of such an effort are massive. Without police, civil militias will form to protect the local communities. We approaching a new era, and the world will never be the same.

I think we're heading back into the dark ages, truthfully.



Thanks for that, its fairly clear. I assume you are saying that the Covid-19 pandemic is not the cause of this apocalyptic event but a convenient pretext for those forces, maybe also the black lives matter - riots?

(in passing)
Also I notice on another thread your asking for book recommendation and Nassim Nicholas Taleb's book was offered. I cant do the maths & have issues with The Black Swan ideas... but have you come across Nick Land, he is now living in China, though taught in the UK and into Accelerationism... his collected works Fanged Noumena pub. urbanomic - bit of a crazy guy...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Land

should give you some clue... 


Oh, yes, I am well acquainted with the work of Mr. Land.
See, Nick Land is a smart guy, because he understands the natural progression of government / economics.
He understands that all of our wanton Capitalism (and I am certainly not hating on Capitalism) irrevocably leads to the effects of a Communist / Socialism state, and then ultimately to anarchy.

But it is just a natural progression of things. There's no griping this fact; it's recognising. Capitalism is great because it offers free enterprise, but life is ultimately a game of resources, so when billionaires and magnates create monopolies, Capitalism ultimately descends in on itself.

Accelerationism is a pretty cool philosophy. Like everything, though, it has its drawbacks. I just see it as a natural response to things.

Balor/SS1535

Quote from: JLIAT on June 09, 2020, 10:24:46 AM
Quote from: Balor/SS1535 on June 09, 2020, 01:16:35 AM
Quote from: JLIAT on June 08, 2020, 07:04:05 PM
I came across this recently re - Baudrilliard - who seems out of the picture these days- but makes an intersting point re inoculation via allowing such ... Virus and protest movements.

"... any given system (such as a capitalist one) which is characterized by efficiency, the possibility of opposition to the system has to be controlled internally if the system is to persist. The single best way of controlling opposition is of course,  by accommodation.  Hence, using the medical analogy... operate (s) rather like an inoculation against disease."  Thomas Docherty, in Continental Philosophy in the 20th Century,   p.481, Routledge.

This makes a lot of sense, I think.  It will certainly be interesting to watch the rise of socialism in the US with this in mind.

I think the point is there will not be any significant change, at best a simulation. Capitalism from the get go saw riots... goes back at least to Bacchanalia, lord if miss rule... etc.



That's sort of what I was trying to say.  It will be interesting to see if there are any changes, given the grand ideas that are currently being presented.

PuddysJacket

Quote from: JLIAT on June 08, 2020, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: theotherjohn on June 08, 2020, 03:30:05 PM
I wish you would read the actual article, so you could see the following quote: "People are voicing their outrage on social media over the reported conditions at the Adelanto facility, likening the poor ventilation and exposure to toxic chemicals to gas chambers used to kill Jewish people and other minority groups during the Holocaust."

I'm not sure who you are addressing this to, if me, then yes I did read it. "likening the poor ventilation and exposure to toxic chemicals to gas chambers used to kill Jewish people and other minority groups during the Holocaust." If you really think this can be "likened" then I gracefully bow out of this discussion.

Filling a windowless building packing them in and throwing children on top, closing the doors and then from a vent in the top pouring in the powder, waiting till the screams stop then disposing of the bodies in specially designed ovens which used the human fat to power the combustion... yeh - very similar... thus killing 6 million is very like "Detainees at the Adelanto detention center in California said many have fallen severely ill due to the constant spray, with at least nine falling severely ill since May 11 according to the report."

9 falling ill = 6 million dead. I give up, your are right.







That is quite the wild tale

PuddysJacket

Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
Yeah, I basically believe there will be some major Marxist restructuring of society, modeled after WW1 Russian Leninism. How their was a major class struggle, which ultimately led to the deaths of the Romanovs and the usurping of power by the Communist party.

At the start of the lockdown, I there would eventually be riots because the economy would falter, leaving many jobless and hungry.
I also believe this is more or less, gonna happen in every country, at least the Western ones, because the lockdown and political agency by groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter would lead to civil unrest.
However, I feel the effects will be predominantly felt in America, because it is the most divisive nation around.

No matter who is the President, I feel it is impossible to fix the economy at this point.

So, I think we will will approach s dangerous situation where all Western powers basically fall, and the power structure will head East, to nations like Russia and China.

I am full-on expecting a post apocalyptic fallout situation. How soon? I would say, in five years' time the world will be drastically different.
I believe we will approaching a major social upheaval, unlike anything ever seen before.
I believe the damage is just only beginning.
Eventually there will be a third world war, and I see massive segments of the world population being culled.

There is absolutely no way the world will ever go back to what it was was 6 months ago. I don't see how we even could go back to the old world. The newest insanity is all this effort to totally defund all police. I don't care about the police, but the implications of such an effort are massive. Without police, civil militias will form to protect the local communities. We approaching a new era, and the world will never be the same.

I think we're heading back into the dark ages, truthfully.



I can see you're a glass half full kinda guy

AnonMessAgeSage

Quote from: PuddysJacket on June 21, 2020, 03:17:09 AM
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
Yeah, I basically believe there will be some major Marxist restructuring of society, modeled after WW1 Russian Leninism. How their was a major class struggle, which ultimately led to the deaths of the Romanovs and the usurping of power by the Communist party.

At the start of the lockdown, I there would eventually be riots because the economy would falter, leaving many jobless and hungry.
I also believe this is more or less, gonna happen in every country, at least the Western ones, because the lockdown and political agency by groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter would lead to civil unrest.
However, I feel the effects will be predominantly felt in America, because it is the most divisive nation around.

No matter who is the President, I feel it is impossible to fix the economy at this point.

So, I think we will will approach s dangerous situation where all Western powers basically fall, and the power structure will head East, to nations like Russia and China.

I am full-on expecting a post apocalyptic fallout situation. How soon? I would say, in five years' time the world will be drastically different.
I believe we will approaching a major social upheaval, unlike anything ever seen before.
I believe the damage is just only beginning.
Eventually there will be a third world war, and I see massive segments of the world population being culled.

There is absolutely no way the world will ever go back to what it was was 6 months ago. I don't see how we even could go back to the old world. The newest insanity is all this effort to totally defund all police. I don't care about the police, but the implications of such an effort are massive. Without police, civil militias will form to protect the local communities. We approaching a new era, and the world will never be the same.

I think we're heading back into the dark ages, truthfully.



I can see you're a glass half full kinda guy


Oh, great, sarcasm.

I'm a realist.

Actually, I believe if you're in fucking HELL, you should turn it into a FUCKING party.
So that's dumb to assume.

I understand that people get unnerved by catastrophic ideas,  but the second wave of coronavirus us already picking up.
So, I think it's silly as fuck to keep your head in the sad.
Expect a more severe financial crash in the coming months.

Oh, but of course that could never happen, right!
Haha.

Just accept that the world is gonna fundamentally change more than you expect it will.
Take a break from the news if it stirs you that much.

I really don't know how to even respond to people about these issues, but very few people out there are even capable of having a mature discussion about it, without getting stuck in a fear-based mentality. Not my problem if people can't handle catastrophic outcomes.
I'm also not trying to "wake people up" like Alex fucking Jones either.
I'm pretty detached at this point. I'm in good spirits and optimistic about my future, no matter how crazy the world gets.

I got shot at like 2 weeks ago, so clearly I'm less likely to be manipulated by mainstream media and be their stooges. This shit doesn't bother me. At all. Just let FATE take its course. It will turn out as it will.

You're on a fucking Noise forum. So I'd infer you'd hold up better than the average man who gets all his news from politicised mainstream media.

host body

#236
Actually looks like nations with a strong social security net and working democratic institutions are doing A LOT better with COVID than nations without them. I'd include China, because while they're not a democracy they actually do have fairly good social security as well as a high level or organization and relatively well educated populace.

Russia, Africa, The US and South America will be on the losing side while the EU, Canada, Australia & NZ and most of Asia will fare better.

If there will be societal collapse, it will come due to the climate crisis rather than war.

Bob

#237
Quote from: AnonMessAgeSage on June 09, 2020, 04:03:13 PM
Yeah, I basically believe there will be some major Marxist restructuring of society, modeled after WW1 Russian Leninism. How their was a major class struggle, which ultimately led to the deaths of the Romanovs and the usurping of power by the Communist party.

At the start of the lockdown, I there would eventually be riots because the economy would falter, leaving many jobless and hungry.
I also believe this is more or less, gonna happen in every country, at least the Western ones, because the lockdown and political agency by groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter would lead to civil unrest.
However, I feel the effects will be predominantly felt in America, because it is the most divisive nation around.

No matter who is the President, I feel it is impossible to fix the economy at this point.

So, I think we will will approach s dangerous situation where all Western powers basically fall, and the power structure will head East, to nations like Russia and China.

I am full-on expecting a post apocalyptic fallout situation. How soon? I would say, in five years' time the world will be drastically different.
I believe we will approaching a major social upheaval, unlike anything ever seen before.
I believe the damage is just only beginning.
Eventually there will be a third world war, and I see massive segments of the world population being culled.

There is absolutely no way the world will ever go back to what it was was 6 months ago. I don't see how we even could go back to the old world. The newest insanity is all this effort to totally defund all police. I don't care about the police, but the implications of such an effort are massive. Without police, civil militias will form to protect the local communities. We approaching a new era, and the world will never be the same.

I think we're heading back into the dark ages, truthfully.



US citizens have the constitutional right to assemble and protest to disregard that is to disregard the American constitution itself. As for the violence that has occurred it seems from my prospective that the police themselves are agitators of it and it would not even suprise me if undercover agents were present to try and disrupt and discredit ligimate protests. As for your remark that it doesn't matter who the US president is that is about as brain-dead a political statement as it is possible to make. Incredible as many of things that Trump has said are it is unbelievable that he threatened to deploy the US army against its own citizens. The US is currently reporting over thousand deaths per day from the virus but instead of holding to account the man given the job to run the country the same one who said the virus was a hoax and that there was nothing to worry about (in other words he was going to do nothing about it) you would rather blame China or Russia or some supposed group like antifa.

It's a shame I think and somewhat ironic that you view the BLM as a threat it's one of more interesting and positive things happening currently in the US imo also I might add that western Europe is not a stranger to socialism many important political figures from my own country were in fact socialists and we never became a communist state but are simply a democracy.

WhiteWarlock

#238
Quote from: Bob on July 31, 2020, 01:36:39 AM

US citizens have the constitutional right to assemble and protest to disregard that is to disregard the American constitution itself. As for the violence that has occurred it seems from my prospective that the police themselves are agitators of it and it would not even suprise me if undercover agents were present to try and disrupt and discredit ligimate protests. As for your remark that it doesn't matter who the US president is that is about as brain-dead a political statement as it is possible to make. Incredible as many of things that Trump has said are it is unbelievable that he threatened to deploy the US army against its own citizens. The US is currently reporting over thousand deaths per day from the virus but instead of holding to account the man given the job to run the country the same one who said the virus was a hoax and that there was nothing to worry about (in other words he was going to do nothing about it) you would rather blame China or Russia or some supposed group like antifa.

It's a shame I think and somewhat ironic that you view the BLM as a threat it's one of more interesting and positive things happening currently in the US imo also I might add that western Europe is not a stranger to socialism many important political figures from my own country were in fact socialists and we never became a communist state but are simply a democracy.
It's more political proxy army power grab Bullshit funded by totalitarian International Corporations on so many absurd levels of the Scamdemic.
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Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured?
FreakMaker
SynthWizards/N01ZE