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 on: April 06, 2021, 05:29:23 PM 
Started by Mr Klang - Last post by Balor/SS1535

This one sounds really interesting (though I can't say that I completely understood even the summary).

You might then be interested in his Phd paper which explores randomness.... free download

Irreversible Noise: The Rationalisation of Randomness and the Fetishisation of Indeterminacy

Cultural Studies PhD Candidate: Inigo Wilkins
Submission Date: 07/12/15
Goldsmiths, University of London,
Centre for Cultural Studies.
Supervisor: Dr. Luciana Paris





Thank you for this, it sounds very similar to his book.  It looks like I have some reading to do!

 on: April 06, 2021, 03:41:02 PM 
Started by CannibalRitual - Last post by MateriaPrima
I had an experience where this lady friend requested me out of the blue. I didn't accept but I saw she posted nonstop publicly about this noise project she was just starting with her friends. She was asking people to list labels and people who run them and how to get in touch and what labels release noise and industrial, which is understandable starting out I guess. But then she started asking for lists of important acts within industrial and noise, saying she didn't know much and hadn't really gotten into it yet, and specifically requested to not be recommended certain subject matter that she found morally objectionable and reprehensible and that she was against supporting that (which to me it seemed like she would miss almost three quarters of noise and industrial if she cut all that out). So I was left confused as to how one starts a new music project in a genre one doesn't know anything about at all and demanding attention for that. It's interesting to see people unwilling to search for and explore things they are supposedly interested in. They want instant lists, accessible, spoon-fed information. The process of exploration and discovery is not seen as an integral part of knowing something, simply the bare minimum of the end result is demanded. Which I think leads to trivializing and not really knowing something in the end. So it's not only the attention economy giving sub-par content an overblown voice as was mentioned before, but it's as the though the very act of accessibility can cheapen a scene and even the content of its genre. Obviously there are limits and overblown pompous elitism also gets really annoying.

 on: April 06, 2021, 01:51:22 PM 
Started by TordonLjud - Last post by TordonLjud
Altar Of Flies/Chondritic Sound:

Altar Of Flies - Rabbit Hole (tape)
Altar Of Flies - Signaler (CD)
M.G. - Stalker Elektroniks (tape)
Mattias Gustafsson - Pianoworks 2017-2020 (tape)
Mattias Gustafsson - Tapeworks Volume I (tape)
Mattias Gustafsson - Tapeworks Volume III (tape)
Mattias Gustafsson ‎– Tapeworks Volume V (tape)
Mattias Gustafsson ‎– Tapeworks Volume VII (Landmusik) (tape)
Mattias Gustafsson ‎– Tapeworks Volume VIII (tape)
Various ‎– Tapeworks Volume IV (tape)

Audio Dissection:

Various - Americanoise (2CD)

Filth & Violence:

Bizarre Uproar - Hardcore (3CD + DVD)
Bizarre Uproar - Sikiöasento (2CD)
Black State - Hlose (CD)
Flagellatio Orgasmus - Criminal Russia (CD)
Organoid - Bitsevsky Maniac (CD)
Scatmother - Flowers Of Maltreatment (CD)
Scatmother - Vaniticism (CD)
Vernichtung Durch Arbeit - Hungertod (CD)

Fusty Cunt:

Climax Denial - Finishing Touch (LP)
Heretic Grail - We Shall Overcome (LP)
Mania/Deterge - Lay Waste/Future Of Pulse (LP)
Stress Orphan - Mass Casualty Events (CD)

Gutter Disease:

Citalopram Shunyata ‎– Vanilla Bloodshame (CD)
Rape Over Chaos - Destruction (CD)

Input Error:

The Rita - Swingers Get Killed (CD)
The Rita - Womankind (CD)

Monorail Trespassing:

Pedestrian Deposit - Debilitant/Erase/Stitching (Triple-tape)

New Forces:

Cryocene - Exclave (CD)
Jeph Jerman - Keep The Drum (Concussion Solos) (CD)
Lila Engel - Materialization (tape)
Plague Mother - Carrying Your Halo (CD)
Seepage - Throes (tape)

Satatuhatta/El Armua:

Aprapat/Scrap Furnace - Split (tape)
Aprapat / Kovana / Ahola & Silander / Häkki ‎– Kolari II (CD)
Moozzhead - Sinematic Pleasures (tape)

Sinkhole Entertainment:

Boiling Point - 1 ("3 CDr)

Tordon Ljud:

Graustich - Irrational Fear (7")


Aube - Grind Carve (LP)
Masonna - Filled With Unquestionable Feelings (LP)
Pain Jerk - Neurotten (LP)

White Centipede Noise/Troniks:

Paranoid Time - RATLife (CD)
Various - Lacerations (2CD)


Intrusive Signals #1
Night Science VI (zine + CD)
Noise Receptor #9

 on: April 06, 2021, 12:05:21 PM 
Started by Ashmonger - Last post by Ashmonger
Old Europa Cafe
Cronaca Nera - Carne e Carnefice CD €11
Folkstorm - Nihil Total CD €13

Nordvis and related
Kaarna – Comitatus Savolaxiae CD €13
Kraken Dvvmvirate - The Stars Belowe, The Seas Above CD €13
Panphage/Thul - Ginnheilagr CD €12
Armagedda - The Final War Approaching LP €19
Bardo Archivology - Vol. 1 zine €5
Forndom - Fathir hoodie size M €40

Tordon Ljud
Artbreakhotel - Radam CD €11
Kiran Arora - Wormwood Scrubs CD €11

Heydrich - A.S.P. Disorder tape €6

Filth & Violence
Bizarre Uproar - Rarities Volume 3 tape €6
Bizarre Uproar - Rarities Volume 4 tape €6
Bizarre Uproar - Melting Pot of Cultures CD €11
Snuff - IV CD €11
Vernichtung Durch Arbeit - Hungertod CD €11
XE - 18 CD €11

Iron Scourge
Helleruin - War Upon Man CD €11

Obsessive Fundamental Realism
Citalopram Shunyata/Vomir – Elle Vide ses Tripes tape €7
Cockfodder – Baptism tape €7
Vigilantism – Fistborn CD €12
Will over Matter – Sähköinen Esoteria – Tribulations 17 to 20 CD €12

Gutter Disease
Hate Sermon - Steel Fortress tape €6
Kadaver/Sodomy From Beyond - Double Negative tape €6
Cervical Smear - Ophelia CD €12

Hiisi Productions
Citalopram Shunyata/North Central/Rotat CD €11

 on: April 06, 2021, 12:03:15 PM 
Started by Ashmonger - Last post by Ashmonger
Gutter Disease presents two new tape releases, both available for €6:

Hate Sermon - Steel Fortress
30 minutes of Industrial Power Electronics and metal junk abuse, featuring aggressive and more atmospheric tracks, on double A side tapes.

Kadaver/Sodomy From Beyond - Double Negative
22 minute split between long running act Kadaver and rather new act Sodomy From Beyond, which is known from releases on Nil By Mouth, Obsessive Fundamental Realism, Modern Decadence… Harsh, negative, aggressive Power Electronics.
Kadaver video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MYDyOWQVQs


 on: April 06, 2021, 11:12:27 AM 
Started by Knotkunt666 - Last post by Knotkunt666
Hello I’m looking for original Mike diana zines anywhere from Boiled angel and before. Let me know how much and let’s work a deal.

 on: April 06, 2021, 09:50:56 AM 
Started by Mr Klang - Last post by JLIAT

This one sounds really interesting (though I can't say that I completely understood even the summary).

You might then be interested in his Phd paper which explores randomness.... free download

Irreversible Noise: The Rationalisation of Randomness and the Fetishisation of Indeterminacy

Cultural Studies PhD Candidate: Inigo Wilkins
Submission Date: 07/12/15
Goldsmiths, University of London,
Centre for Cultural Studies.
Supervisor: Dr. Luciana Paris





 on: April 06, 2021, 08:05:09 AM 
Started by Mr Klang - Last post by FreakAnimalFinland
I have always had mixed feelings of Ramleh works.

I wasn’t exposed to Ramleh until about mid 90’s, and after Masonna, some Gerogerigegege etc and as yougnster it didn’t seem as wild as I would hope. It took some months to fully appreciate the stuff. (those years the time went on different speed. That is also mentioned in book. Within year, happened so much, and it was a damn long time..)

When I got into the old PE works, I was not interested in rock stuff they did at that time. Eventually I started to like many of the rock recordings too. Afterall, liking Godflesh, Skullflower, Cosmonauts Hail Satan and stuff like that. Already in 1996 I was playing in Junkdrome which was pretty much influenced by such stuff. And have played similar stuff since under other names.

Appreciation to Ramleh grew big enough, perhaps to level of almost fanboy, that I actually travelled to UK sometime in 2000’s when band did sort of comeback show after long break. And then flew over to NYC to see the first noise gig since early 80’s!
Of course there was always other things combined, like doing Grunt show or whatever, but all organized based on idea of seeing some band I wanted to see.

Still in recent years, when Ramleh played in Helsinki, of course I went there.

So the book? Of course when book is announced, one has a lot of expectations. Like all things Ramleh, it is basically somewhat disappointing at first (haha), but then you look at what is good in this, and always find something.
In this case, you will discover that there is unusually long interview with Mundy, lots of small details, bits and pieces shared of interesting early years of power electronics. Stuff that you had not read before.

I can perfectly understand, that most of old stuff, most of the transgressions are sort of dismissed merely as juvenile provocations, and over and over and over again explained how they were not X, and people assuming they were, do not understand the context and era when it was done etc. Blaaaah. I think it would have been nicer if they could have gone deeper into memories, to state of mind at the time, talk about how actually information gathered.  What they may have thought, what they may have expressed. Even if it is something they would not do -now-.  If only would get as clear treatment as the latest album, which I can not stand, despite liking to even previous album to some degree.

Perhaps the fanboyish attitude of author is not all good here. Good is that he knows about band enough to make very very long interview that is the core of whole book. Negative may be that there is no challenge or critical follow-up questions. Very often goes into such hyperbole and mythologisizing about greatness of something what becames pretty hilarious. My favorite is that author concludes in longer rant that latest album instrumental song titled "racial violence" is strongest statement heard in rock music in recent years, relating to BLM. Oh yeah? I would assume there is pretty hefty amount of anti-racist rock out there that'll have more than clumsy electronic toy sounds being thrown together?
Anyways. In times when there really is no abundance of amazing noise books, I’m fine with book that has this much of nuggets of information. It has stories by people who are not asked questions so often. Of course some relevant people had declined to be part of book. Most notable Philip Best. One fairly short, but very funny thing is Rupenus setting it straight how the Whitehouse Morden Tower ”riot” actually happened, hah.. Certainly hardcover book worthy story!

A lot of images are pixelated, a lot of album covers seems to be like cut & pasted from online source (discogs?) and one wonders how long it would have taken to actually take good pic or scan of something that is commonly available? In other hand, you got some rare gig posters, flyers, and such. Things that are good to be seen and preserved.

While reading, GRUDGE FOR LIFE 12" - very disappointing record for me what I first heard it, but nowadays I appreciate it to some degree. Hole In A Heart good stuff. Real goodie after the early days mayhem. Giving it a try to new album, but just... can’t. Beyond couple ok'ish tracks, it is not good at all. Selected tracks from previous album circular time ok. The Onslaught of the early days and some rock 7”s, always nice! I am fully aware that it must be annoying to be always judged (in good and bad) for like first couple years of activity, while having plenty of stuff out there.

Recommended? Absolutely! Could it be somehow better? Well, what could not? For noise book makers, world is open to make better one if one can!

 on: April 06, 2021, 07:49:57 AM 
Started by CannibalRitual - Last post by FreakAnimalFinland
I wonder if clicking "delete" is way too much work? Not much different from getting endless friend requests in social media. If you don't use it in such ways (Not following people nor posting anything on your page).

"Problem" of handful of emails, requests, promos etc. hitting delete is quick and easy?

I generally check all incoming mail, but just to speed things up, I no longer reply to absolutely every request. I don't check out "friend requests" usually, and most of unpersonalized label spam I may deleted without reading. It means that sometimes good things are missed. Then it can be good to put topic that I'll see is personally meant for me.

This Japanese character certainly sent several mails, I don't mind. You got way way way more annoying people around than someone trying to figure out way to get his noise heard, without really knowing what to do.

 on: April 06, 2021, 07:41:14 AM 
Started by Otomo_Hava - Last post by FreakAnimalFinland
Finished reading new issue of Troubled Sleep. I recall there was no instant plans for 5th issue, which is too bad! Even now when you got multiple noise zines going, I think covering the small and currently active, yet not ”legendary” names is quite small?
Even if I tend to buy all books and zines that I can, that are ”noise related”, getting yet another new book featuring GPO, Lustmord, John Duncan,.. etc.. while being obviously very much in support of those guys, it’s like.. 2021 and GPO?! Haha. So having ’zine like Troubled Sleep that has LEGLESS or such thing, oh yes, I would assume it would be healthy to allow currently active bands some exposure instead recycling stories of industrial forefathers...?

Even if I just said that, I think one has to recommend the book. It is always possible that people are not really that exposed to works of John Duncan, and even people like myself, who may have more than dozen albums in shelves, often somewhat ignore most of "new things" that artist does. There has happened plenty since Riot came out, or man did the most memorable performance acts he is most known for... I guess that could be even good topic of its own! Noteworthy later works of the industrial pioneers??

There was released book called DIFFERENT PEOPLE by Carl Abrahamsson. Interview collection book.
“Different People” is an anthology of interviews by Swedish author Carl Abrahamsson, focusing on art, life and the creative process. Included are in-depth conversations with Conrad Rooks, Malcolm McLaren, Stelarc, John Duncan, Charles Gatewood, Mark McCloud, Ralph Metzner, Peter Beard, Bill Landis, Ralph Gibson, Maja Elliott, Michael Bowen, Bob Colacello, Dian Hanson, Anton Corbijn, June Newton, Kendell Geers, Simeon Coxe III (Silver Apples), Vicki Bennett (People Like Us), and Brian Williams (Lustmord). These groundbreaking artists, writers, musicians, photographers, filmmakers, editors and psychedelic researchers have all helped shape the culture we live in. But what makes them do what they do? Which are their driving forces and their inspirations; their joys and fears?Trapart Books, 2021, 6 x 9” paperback, illustrated with photographic portraits, 292 pages. This is sold exclusively by Amazon, I guess...

Yesterday's playlist JOHN DUNCAN "Phantom Broadcast" CD
Ice cold, minimal, ghostly static drone works. Things do happen in this album, but slowly. Overall atmosphere is great, so is the tone of short-wave radio sources. It’s calm, unlike RIOT. Of course decades between the early works and this 2000’s short-wave stuff.
Whole thing is in one, nearly hour long track. Very nice!!

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