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GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => GENERAL SOUND DISCUSSION => Topic started by: ANDROPHILIA on September 20, 2016, 12:07:18 AM



Title: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 20, 2016, 12:07:18 AM
well...
It can be a controversial topic.
is a radical musical universe  that can be appreciated even beyond the political connotation
someone interested ?


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: burdizzo on September 20, 2016, 12:22:28 AM
I wouldn't have any problems w/ the politics (even if they are expressed in an oaf-ish manner), but I must say, I haven't heard any RAC I actually find in the least bit interesting musically. Unfortunately.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Sadomaniac on September 20, 2016, 12:38:08 AM
Mainly enjoy the Finnish stuff. From Mistreat, Sniper and Hate Crime up to more current bands Vapaudenristi, Pylvanainen and Pagan Skull. But Vandal, Honor, Bully Boys and Midtown Bootboys all deserve a mention too.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 20, 2016, 12:42:01 AM
(http://feralhouse.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Skinhead-510x728.jpg)

It may be interesting to be introduced to this music world this nice book edited by feral house.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Sadomaniac on September 20, 2016, 01:05:24 AM
Indeed, that FH book is mandatory reading for all fans and newcomers to the genre. A heavily detailed history written by those involved.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ritualabuser on September 20, 2016, 07:37:20 AM
Lately I've really been digging Legion from Poland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXLjLvbNiHM Has a very deathrock/post-punk sound to it, much like Honor's "Cena Idei". Other than that, I'd have to echo a lot of what was already mentioned like Vapaudenristi, Pagan Skull, Sniper, Mistreat, Hate Crime, Honor, Skrewdriver, Angry Aryans, I.N.F.A.N.T.R.Y., Blue Eyed Devils, Nordmacht, Stahlgewitter, Division Germania, Nordmacht, Iron Youth, Legion 88, Nouvelle Croisade, and Open Season. The "No Surrender" comps are good (at least volumes 1&2) as well as "Made In Japan (Skinhead Sounds From The Land Of The Rising Sun)". The book in the previous post is good, even if it reads a little dry with all of the pointless details of every release from that period.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: AXNAAR on September 20, 2016, 02:02:51 PM
Mostly enjoy the 28 bands with a bit more metal influence like Vengeance, Squadron and later Skrewdriver and the early White Noise era stuff from Public Enemy, Brutal Attack, Close Shave, Skullhead, ABH etc especially the recording quality. That feral house book has great descriptions and stories from the key albums of the movement.
Some personal faves:
Skrewdriver - Demo '83
Brutal Attack - Stronger than Before and Demos
No Remorse - This Time The World
Vengeance - Forward into War
Skrewdriver - The Strong Survive
White Diamond - The Reaper (commonly regarded as rubbish, but I like it)
Squadron - Our Time Will Come & Take The Sword


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: tiny_tove on September 20, 2016, 04:59:30 PM
as said, still obsessed with the glory days of oi (cock sparrer, 4 skins, last resort, oppressed, early skrewdriver, criminal class, combat 84, condemned 84 etc.)
today I listen mostly to Japanese SSS bands (that are pratically metal), some French and Italian bands (still into nabat, cani, etc.), many American OI bands (past and present... )

bif fan of Hard Skin, started as a joke band, but delivered some of the best old school tunes ever.
bassist, If I am not wrong, is the brother of one of the author of the Feral House book which, I must admit, bored me after a while... I had great expectations, but it sounds more like name dropping of many people who came and went after a while...





Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: MT on September 20, 2016, 06:38:54 PM
Mistreat, Störkraft, Freikorps, Blue Eyed Devils, Fortress, Open Season, Vapaudenristi, No Remorse, Sniper, Division Germania etc. are highly appreciated bands in our household.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 20, 2016, 09:33:26 PM
It is very charming also the graphic style of many releases , rude ans "illegal publication" mood.

(https://img.discogs.com/a33rObXgakUGtDcGerYrUfQHm5I=/fit-in/200x198/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3351513-1326926285.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/9YvO1mAnXJaki0hz3_2TP3owsVs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2614339-1302955126.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/4CO4iRgtOYo2haEVd59LayJo8qU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4475945-1365948018-7793.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/jFVfA_rMEf90x-lksCs8A44QGoo=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-676701-1473334617-7329.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/Q-0mHtPjVbShC0sqyTlg9pfDbSM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1660531-1240409568.jpeg.jpg)


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: impulse manslaughter on September 20, 2016, 10:15:49 PM
I love a lot of the classic oi-bands! RAC sub-genre is responsible for some of the worst music i've ever heard.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on September 20, 2016, 10:20:51 PM
Those type of charming covers only used in old rac. Material these days almost exclusively goes to two categories:
1) horrid Photoshop turd
2) regular Photoshop covers lacking all personality and charm

Unfortunately this ALSO correlates with too large part of music.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: tiny_tove on September 20, 2016, 10:26:43 PM
Those type of charming covers only used in old rac. Material these days almost exclusively goes to two categories:
1) horrid Photoshop turd
2) regular Photoshop covers lacking all personality and charm

Unfortunately this ALSO correlates with too large part of music.

.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: AXNAAR on September 20, 2016, 10:41:15 PM
It is very charming also the graphic style of many releases , rude ans "illegal publication" mood.

(https://img.discogs.com/a33rObXgakUGtDcGerYrUfQHm5I=/fit-in/200x198/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3351513-1326926285.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/9YvO1mAnXJaki0hz3_2TP3owsVs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2614339-1302955126.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/4CO4iRgtOYo2haEVd59LayJo8qU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4475945-1365948018-7793.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/jFVfA_rMEf90x-lksCs8A44QGoo=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-676701-1473334617-7329.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/Q-0mHtPjVbShC0sqyTlg9pfDbSM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1660531-1240409568.jpeg.jpg)

Worth noting that Nicky Crane was responsible for a lot of the best art of the 80's including Skrewdriver - Hail the New Dawn and No Remorse - This Time the World to name just two - pretty sure he did most Skrewdriver covers until his Channel 4 appearance.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 21, 2016, 12:03:08 AM
Those type of charming covers only used in old rac. Material these days almost exclusively goes to two categories:
1) horrid Photoshop turd
2) regular Photoshop covers lacking all personality and charm

Unfortunately this ALSO correlates with too large part of music.
so true


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 21, 2016, 12:13:19 AM
It is very charming also the graphic style of many releases , rude ans "illegal publication" mood.

(https://img.discogs.com/a33rObXgakUGtDcGerYrUfQHm5I=/fit-in/200x198/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3351513-1326926285.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/9YvO1mAnXJaki0hz3_2TP3owsVs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2614339-1302955126.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/4CO4iRgtOYo2haEVd59LayJo8qU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4475945-1365948018-7793.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/jFVfA_rMEf90x-lksCs8A44QGoo=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-676701-1473334617-7329.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/Q-0mHtPjVbShC0sqyTlg9pfDbSM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1660531-1240409568.jpeg.jpg)

Worth noting that Nicky Crane was responsible for a lot of the best art of the 80's including Skrewdriver - Hail the New Dawn and No Remorse - This Time the World to name just two - pretty sure he did most Skrewdriver covers until his Channel 4 appearance.

(https://img.discogs.com/10qFSnHLex9s-QnmSoB6Vdj1xdU=/fit-in/501x502/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1957501-1294506844.jpeg.jpg)

this great artwork come from Crane  right?


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Zodiac on September 21, 2016, 03:04:56 AM
It is very charming also the graphic style of many releases , rude ans "illegal publication" mood.

(https://img.discogs.com/a33rObXgakUGtDcGerYrUfQHm5I=/fit-in/200x198/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3351513-1326926285.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/9YvO1mAnXJaki0hz3_2TP3owsVs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2614339-1302955126.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/4CO4iRgtOYo2haEVd59LayJo8qU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4475945-1365948018-7793.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/jFVfA_rMEf90x-lksCs8A44QGoo=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-676701-1473334617-7329.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/Q-0mHtPjVbShC0sqyTlg9pfDbSM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1660531-1240409568.jpeg.jpg)

I am all in for this kind of covers. I just like it. Fits this period in time imho.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: AXNAAR on September 21, 2016, 10:21:20 AM
It is very charming also the graphic style of many releases , rude ans "illegal publication" mood.

(https://img.discogs.com/a33rObXgakUGtDcGerYrUfQHm5I=/fit-in/200x198/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-3351513-1326926285.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/9YvO1mAnXJaki0hz3_2TP3owsVs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2614339-1302955126.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/4CO4iRgtOYo2haEVd59LayJo8qU=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-4475945-1365948018-7793.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/jFVfA_rMEf90x-lksCs8A44QGoo=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-676701-1473334617-7329.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/Q-0mHtPjVbShC0sqyTlg9pfDbSM=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-1660531-1240409568.jpeg.jpg)

Worth noting that Nicky Crane was responsible for a lot of the best art of the 80's including Skrewdriver - Hail the New Dawn and No Remorse - This Time the World to name just two - pretty sure he did most Skrewdriver covers until his Channel 4 appearance.

(https://img.discogs.com/10qFSnHLex9s-QnmSoB6Vdj1xdU=/fit-in/501x502/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-1957501-1294506844.jpeg.jpg)

this great artwork come from Crane  right?

Aye, a great work!

Some favourite covers. Similar charm as 80's private press metal LP's.

(https://img.discogs.com/x8nKw9a6pY_udofDXBFEBVD16Us=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2471224-1294522323.jpeg.jpg)

(http://a404.idata.over-blog.com/2/14/60/30/a/english-rose-choose-your-side.jpg)

(http://e.snmc.io/lk/f/a/75ad107a8e1549939ede0d7dde28f76f/3363770.jpeg)

(http://images.cdbaby.name/w/h/whitediamond1.jpg)


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 21, 2016, 11:22:04 AM
(https://img.discogs.com/3cDGvfZztxXvZnKsX0nUt7pG-S8=/fit-in/504x503/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2269348-1294596813.jpeg.jpg)
(https://img.discogs.com/nROf14ROyh09WpzVRIMjlfj9mQw=/fit-in/505x502/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-2269348-1294596821.jpeg.jpg)

sober 7" of No Remorse from Rebelles Européens

probably the best RAC label of the golden age


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 21, 2016, 06:16:39 PM

today I listen mostly to Japanese SSS bands



about Japan i know only Sladgehammer but i think i need to explore this scene

out of the tipical Europe-Usa area there is a nice Chilean band Orgullo Sur
(https://img.discogs.com/24S0E2sx0J6mR6Hq-lfo88itWDw=/fit-in/600x600/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-6271362-1415276675-1057.jpeg.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2uPsbvH6vM


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: david lloyd jones on September 21, 2016, 06:27:42 PM
from what I have heard, admittedly limited, this sounds like bad pub rock to me on the whole, just like the original screwdriver lp.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: AXNAAR on September 21, 2016, 10:20:21 PM
from what I have heard, admittedly limited, this sounds like bad pub rock to me on the whole, just like the original screwdriver lp.
Ah! There's no hope for you mate!
Listen to
Vengeance - forward into war
Skrewdriver 1983 demo
Squadron - our time will come
No remorse - this time the world


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: tiny_tove on September 21, 2016, 11:07:38 PM

today I listen mostly to Japanese SSS bands



about Japan i know only Sladgehammer but i think i need to explore this scene

jin ray
ouka
r.i.p.
hawks
bad vultures
aggro knuckle
cannons
strong style (my personal faves)
bulldog herucles
kokoro
raya
hawks
bull the buffalo
early Eastern Youth (now they rule for other reasons...)
and there are hundreds moe

start with the two samplers  "fight back for the rising sun" and "werewolves"


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Ashmonger on September 22, 2016, 10:11:27 AM
Not exactly an expert in these genres, but there's some stuff that hasn't been mentioned yet, which I quite like.
Tors Vrede - Ave Victoria is great, though it's a mix of RAC/Viking Rock and some Metal thrown in.
English Rose has great tracks too, though some are less interesting. Belgian Kill Baby Kill is great of course. Really liked Hate Society too, very catchy, hilarious lyrics at times. Final War - We Speak The Truth is great too, sounds more like punk rock actually, but very catchy and some great sing along stuff (Remember Pearl Harbor!!!). Race War - The White Race Will Prevail is very good too.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Grübelschlinge on September 22, 2016, 12:18:25 PM
(https://img.discogs.com/3VUeFhvtgf9buJX_IflEI8C-ZCs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-8780529-1468621903-1862.jpeg.jpg)

100% quality. Heavy rotation here since months.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: HongKongGoolagong on September 23, 2016, 02:07:13 AM
A great part of the charm with the '80s RAC for me was the very socially marginalised and obsessive nature of the product, as well as the sheer amateurishness of the finished albums. Hail The New Dawn by Skrewdriver is very poor music, playing and production by any standards, and is so worried about its potentially illegal thoughts that it becomes heavily self-censored and paranoiac - the last track on the LP wants to say 'once it was our country, now it's run by Jews' but he just cannot bring himself to say it and 'now it's run by who?' is all he can utter. I live in the same town that ISD grew up in, know and drink with people he grew up with, know a lot about his unfortunate family background. Records like this and the equally charming Blood & Honour are really some kind of outsider art. Incredible sleeve art posted in this thread. I personally look for and often find and enjoy the mental illness, the loss and sadness, the sense of self-fulfilling failure and defeat in this material but that's just my own kink.

I enjoyed the Feral House book but the style was rather obsessive and anal retentive to say the least - those endless footnotes.

I wouldn't class Oi! with RAC at all, very different genres. I like the classic 4 Skins, Business and Last Resort material, the first two Cockney Rejects albums are transcendentally beautiful and truly great music, and you can't really go wrong with the often bizarre hotch potch of styles and mixed political messages featured on the first three classic Bushell compilations (Oi The Album, Strength Thru Oi, Carry On Oi).



Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: tiny_tove on September 23, 2016, 09:37:05 AM
I wouldn't class Oi! with RAC at all, very different genres. I like the classic 4 Skins, Business and Last Resort material, the first two Cockney Rejects albums are transcendentally beautiful and truly great music, and you can't really go wrong with the often bizarre hotch potch of styles and mixed political messages featured on the first three classic Bushell compilations (Oi The Album, Strength Thru Oi, Carry On Oi).



agreed in general, but in Italy first 15 years of rac was oi with nationalist lyrics. same goes with France I suppose.
but as said I agree with the separation of genres despite the obvious links

regarding social outcasts... everybody should watch the 100% white documentary... another doc where I have stolen hours of samples for memories from the pigsty


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 24, 2016, 07:45:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f0qZMUQcAs&list=PLFYTimOY8Bp32TkXQ4z9jfXaC5WW4_1ag




Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 24, 2016, 07:46:59 PM
Today is the anniversary of the death of ISD



Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Zodiac on September 25, 2016, 01:14:51 AM
Today is the anniversary of the death of ISD

i give any bet that some clandestine rac concerts did happen yesterday


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on September 25, 2016, 10:30:43 AM
Today is the anniversary of the death of ISD

i give any bet that some clandestine rac concerts did happen yesterday
celebrated every year


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on October 05, 2016, 11:25:07 PM

about Japan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALPhA1xsRRw


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on October 06, 2016, 09:32:51 AM
In recent times, several vinyl reissues of Samurai Spirit Skinhead stuff has emerged. 7"s, compilations, etc...   Also last year, Bound For Glory played tour in Japan, organized by "Blood & Honour Yellow Side".

Sledgehammer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eba-4935R6E
Ikazuchi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1e4CrlsiCI
Strong Style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvFEpdKb_AU
Kabuto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdAgGmsZ3-I
Aggroknuckle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y15HGv1pVW4
Bull The Buffalos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA_t-zAvkY4
etc etc...

Most bands are fairly "same" in sound and style. Several also turned soft after couple recordings. Perhaps one of catchier bands is The Hawks, which should appeal to anyone into bands like Final War, Mistreat, Pluton Svea, etc. but sometimes melodic oi meets almost mall-punk, and suddenly almost poppy! hah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03pr9zH748k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jv3MdJo-kE
Some The Hawks stuff was reissued last year by European label.

Latest I got on 7" was Showdown. European label put out their 2015 CDR demo on vinyl. Whether it *really* needs to be on vinyl based on musical merits... hmm.. It's curious to think whether songs such as these are really "composed". Would you say to band mates that "I made this new riff", when everybody has heard the same riff countless time already. To me it is irrelevant, as overall feel is more crucial than what 2-4 chords one chooses to use as backing for the rest.. My only wish would be that more rotten and fierce sound quality would be needed!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evqK9oY6_K8


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: cantle on October 07, 2016, 01:59:34 AM
Today is the anniversary of the death of ISD

i give any bet that some clandestine rac concerts did happen yesterday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-37575508


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: aischrolatreia on October 09, 2016, 04:14:50 AM
My only wish would be that more rotten and fierce sound quality would be needed!

Alright, so this small-town white boy regrettably hasn't picked up any RAC in the past couple years (although Vapaudenristi is pretty good) for the above reason...who can recommend the more gritty, punchy, and coarse RAC bands/records? Along the lines of the "harder" sound of say, Last Resort or Condemned '84, but, y'know, more obvious right-wing orientation.

Early Nahkampf
Honor "from struggle to victory"
Storkraft "drekig, kahl und hundsgemein"


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: wash in blood on November 10, 2016, 03:16:36 PM
Suggestions for ITALIAN RAC? Only know PEGGIOR AMICO


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 10, 2016, 08:47:20 PM
Suggestions for ITALIAN RAC? Only know PEGGIOR AMICO

Not perhaps to be labeled "RAC", but melodic fascist tiger punk, Bronson, probably the best from Italy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvnIp0M4-aU

Both albums came out on vinyl recently too.

If you like Peggior Amico, probably will like things like some harder materials of Legittima Offesa, Civico 88, Nessuna Resa, etc..

From Italy one should always check Plastic Surgery "rivolta". Excellent melodic oi/punk, but song extensively covered by numerous RAC bands. For example by some above mentioned ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWabTXlyLjo
Original of course is better and also german Faustrecht version excellent.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: tiny_tove on November 10, 2016, 09:38:18 PM
try also Italian non-rac original band from the 80's:
early Nabat (they were the head of the Italian skinhead movement before politics, although they were playing in squats, etc.) , Basta, Rough, Fun, SS20, Dioxina, etc.

a good start is the compilation Quelli Che Urlano Ancora.

there have been some decent bands also in the second wave of apolitical oi (Incivili, 17100 Kids, Stab, etc.)



Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on November 10, 2016, 11:03:41 PM
Suggestions for ITALIAN RAC? Only know PEGGIOR AMICO

ADL 122
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCYb7YGA_-c&spfreload=10

GESTA BELLICA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxqd5CDfBVA

ULTIMA FRONTIERA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2jpUOfOZzo

INTOLLERANZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rLNb_rofyE


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Zodiac on November 11, 2016, 03:25:27 AM
Not perhaps to be labeled "RAC", but melodic fascist tiger punk, Bronson, probably the best from Italy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvnIp0M4-aU

Great stuff !! Same "not prehaps to be..." goes for SPQR... simply best NSHC band from Italy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-2Ex-nPhM


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Grübelschlinge on November 26, 2016, 01:32:22 PM
Does anyone know if there is a chance to buy Mistreat - flame from the north LP OR CD anywhere???


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on November 27, 2016, 03:33:43 PM
Does anyone know if there is a chance to buy Mistreat - flame from the north LP OR CD anywhere???

try to send a mail here

http://ravenscallrecords.com/


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Grübelschlinge on November 28, 2016, 11:37:21 AM
Does anyone know if there is a chance to buy Mistreat - flame from the north LP OR CD anywhere???

try to send a mail here

http://ravenscallrecords.com/

Tried already. No reply. Maybe isn't active anymore.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Scat-O-Logy on November 28, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
Does anyone know if there is a chance to buy Mistreat - flame from the north LP OR CD anywhere???

Try this email: order@alternativeaction.fi


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on November 28, 2016, 10:09:53 PM
Sakaramiina (fin) has all. Also new bfg/mistreat split lp/cd set repress.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on November 29, 2016, 02:38:17 AM
Does anyone know if there is a chance to buy Mistreat - flame from the north LP OR CD anywhere???

try to send a mail here

http://ravenscallrecords.com/

Tried already. No reply. Maybe isn't active anymore.

the guy is active but i think is out of his base at the moment.


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Grübelschlinge on November 29, 2016, 06:29:53 PM
Sakaramiina (fin) has all. Also new bfg/mistreat split lp/cd set repress.
How to order for Germans?


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Zodiac on December 03, 2016, 10:08:24 PM
Sakaramiina (fin) has all. Also new bfg/mistreat split lp/cd set repress.
How to order for Germans?

Send email in english ?


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on December 05, 2016, 11:58:14 AM
usually underground works in a way that you contact people you need to, and explain what you want. Unless there is modern type of "online store" to place orders.
Sometimes it may be few days of waiting, but I would assume it is obvious that most labels on the field are not doing it as "work" so one can't expect it to be as efficient as those who run "business".


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: eyestrain on January 08, 2017, 08:48:57 PM
Not perhaps to be labeled "RAC", but melodic fascist tiger punk, Bronson, probably the best from Italy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvnIp0M4-aU

Great stuff !! Same "not prehaps to be..." goes for SPQR... simply best NSHC band from Italy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr-2Ex-nPhM

Have listened to these two artists for the last two months obsessively ever since seeing them posted here.

Haven't loved such a poppy punk band in ages. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUhukcagwJI


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: holydeath on January 11, 2017, 05:04:32 PM
It is very charming also the graphic style of many releases , rude ans "illegal publication" mood.

(https://img.discogs.com/9YvO1mAnXJaki0hz3_2TP3owsVs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2614339-1302955126.jpeg.jpg)

Had the pleasure of listening to this Storm album a few months ago. Excruciatingly bad drummer from the waist down, keeps messing with the kick drum in every single song, as if the pedal is too loose or just an eager foot.



Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: ANDROPHILIA on January 11, 2017, 08:42:42 PM
It is very charming also the graphic style of many releases , rude ans "illegal publication" mood.

(https://img.discogs.com/9YvO1mAnXJaki0hz3_2TP3owsVs=/fit-in/300x300/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(40)/discogs-images/R-2614339-1302955126.jpeg.jpg)

Had the pleasure of listening to this Storm album a few months ago. Excruciatingly bad drummer from the waist down, keeps messing with the kick drum in every single song, as if the pedal is too loose or just an eager foot.



recently reissued


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on January 11, 2017, 09:09:03 PM
recently reissued

For few years especially, there has been huge stream of vinyl releases/reissues. Most of genre classics & things worth of money seem to be reissued on LP.

Just recent, what may interest some Finns at least, is Mistreat/Bound For Glory LP as well as finally first time official LP "Faith & Fury". Curiously everything from good sounding record, glossy lyric sheets to non-pixelated covers, it seems almost too good, hah...


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: impulse manslaughter on September 14, 2020, 05:11:19 PM
New oi-project I started with some friends..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQbklKu5bAI&fbclid=IwAR2m249f48lW3grA5iIiF3hHQ-s0Rn3ZOEJb591wJ2HpKmTxzti0AhS-8ao


Title: Re: OI!-RAC MUSIC
Post by: Obetavá.Protivník on September 25, 2020, 09:51:00 AM
Today is the anniversary of the death of ISD

i give any bet that some clandestine rac concerts did happen yesterday

you bet your ass they did, and i didn't get to attend any of them.

the only thing i didn't see previously listed that's worth mentioning is Twierdza, who can be fairly hit or miss, although everything i've heard off of "Lot Orła" is solid.