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GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION => GENERAL VISUAL ART / LITERATURE DISCUSSION => Topic started by: cr on April 02, 2022, 09:24:32 AM



Title: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: cr on April 02, 2022, 09:24:32 AM
Some years ago there was article in Exoteric zine about PE cinema, which led me to some good movies I hadn't seen and didn't know about.
As I like art books, I wondered, is there something you would call PE paintings or painters? From contemporary artists, of course one of the first I would think of, is Jukka Siikala. But there are others for sure. Go back some centuries and it seems, that Hieronymus Bosch or Pieter Bruegel could be the forefathers of this imaginary genre.
I know, maybe it's some kind of silly topic, but looking forward to your contributions!


Edit: Changed/extended topic. All contributions to PE subject matter in art in general also very much welcome!


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Aldous on April 02, 2022, 11:54:57 AM
Not silly at all. For more contemporary stuff and P.E. related, you should check on Jonathan Cannady's (Deathpile) work:

https://jonathancanady.com/
 (https://jonathancanady.com/)

Also, VA Puumalainen (Contortus)

https://vpuumalainen.wordpress.com
 (https://vpuumalainen.wordpress.com)

or Nicola Vinciguerra a.k.a Tisbor

https://www.tisbor.com/ (https://www.tisbor.com/)

As for more "classic" stuff, Bruno Schulz's work comes to mind instantly.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Aldous on April 02, 2022, 01:02:54 PM
Bruno Richard who made the cover for The Sodality's "Beyond Unknown Pleasures"

Trevor Brown (of course...)

Another classic would be Otto Dix.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: cr on April 02, 2022, 01:28:34 PM
Yes, thanks a lot, good ones!
I'd add Clovis Trouille and of course, Joe Coleman.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Aldous on April 02, 2022, 02:27:54 PM
Renzo Vespignani - great italian artist with a wide ammout of work. You might recognize his style from the Projekt Neue Ordnung compilations.

Petter Petterson - There are several black & white drawings related to body decay, mental madness, etc... Very saturated and obsessive line work

Jiří Sozanský - Textured work with bodies in tension, confrontation and collapse. Very organic and sketchy, but intense! Somehow I always remember stuff like Con-Dom when I see these illustrations and paintings

Roj Friberg - prolific swedish painter with these fantastic industrial landscapes. There are also some works with human body collapsed under stones that I find quite intense. There is this "nordic uneasiness" in his work



Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Balor/SS1535 on April 02, 2022, 04:28:46 PM
Even though he primarily works in sculpture, the drawings of Lionel Maunz should fit this topic as well.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Aldous on April 02, 2022, 05:38:15 PM
The infamous Antoine Bernhart.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: DrRichard on April 02, 2022, 07:54:32 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/MThGc0rt/image-2022-04-02-195348.png)


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: APPLE on April 02, 2022, 09:03:03 PM
Stefan Danielsson paintings have been used as covers for Whitehouse and IRM.

Macronympha had the 'Futurismo!' cassette and noise music generally could be considered to have overlap with the futurist movement.

I'm reminded that John Wayne Gacy was a painter too.

A certain historically significant Austrian started out as a painter. The Chapman Brothers bought and defaced original works by this artist by painting butterflies and rainbows onto them - https://whitehotmagazine.com/articles/2008-chapman-brothers-white-cube/1430 - the 'appropriation, intervention and pastiche' of this approach reminds me quite a bit of the treatment of historical sources within industrial music.

Also, a Vagina Dentata Organ performance in which he demonstrated the proper respect for works of high culture:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsaaFO_YBFM


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Sadomaniac on April 03, 2022, 01:39:50 AM
First contemporary painter that comes to mind is Naoki Sasayama. Grotesque watercolors.

https://studionega.wixsite.com/mysite/gallery-2


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Balor/SS1535 on April 03, 2022, 02:01:53 AM
Perhaps some works by Balthus could also fit (for thematic more than formal reasons): https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/489977


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: cr on April 03, 2022, 05:43:10 AM
I think Balthus fits well. And also his brother Pierre Klossowski.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: JLIAT on April 03, 2022, 01:13:23 PM
The Chapman Bothers have produced sculptures and images some of an ironic take on Hell. And I suppose some of Hirst's work, and Koons made in heaven series?  Which also reminds me of Warhol's Death and Disaster prints. Or maybe Allen Jones “furniture” (not paintings!) which appeared in Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange. ??


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Balor/SS1535 on April 03, 2022, 07:22:22 PM
Which also reminds me of Warhol's Death and Disaster prints.

These were among the first that I thought of as well.  Definitely a perfect fit: "obsessive" repetition of violent imagery.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: online prowler on April 03, 2022, 11:32:23 PM
Some years ago there was article in Exoteric zine about PE cinema, which led me to some good movies I hadn't seen and didn't know about.
As I like art books, I wondered, is there something you would call PE paintings or painters? From contemporary artists, of course one of the first I would think of, is Jukka Siikala. But there are others for sure. Go back some centuries and it seems, that Hieronymus Bosch or Pieter Bruegel could be the forefathers of this imaginary genre.
I know, maybe it's some kind of silly topic, but looking forward to your contributions!

Good topic. I recall that Exoteric zine w fondness. I would suggest to expand topic to include: 'PE SUBJECT MATTER in ART'. And in this not only looking at the visuals per see, but also the ideas behind the works. I think this added approach opens up another way of seeing and understanding art, but also PE culture.

Not to set anything in stone I suggest a few artists I appreciate that in short deal with subject matter like death, punishment, decadence, humilation:

Artists:
Tsurisaki Kyiotaka - Death photography
Ito Seiu - Art and SM
Akio Fuji - SM photography, his work in bondage magazine Kinbiken Communications
Nobuyoshi Araki - his SM and decadent 1980 & 1990s works
Michael Salerno - Teenage Satanists fanzines (Kiddiepunk)
Kotaro Kobayashi - Photographer, editor, gallery owner, publisher

Books:
«Die Bilder über Die Strafe Und Abnormer Gefehlechtstrieb»
Too Negative
Ultra Negative
ORG magazine


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Atrophist on April 04, 2022, 12:05:38 AM
Janne from Kovana also does graphic art:

https://instagram.com/jankuta.art?utm_medium


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on April 06, 2022, 08:12:27 AM
Institute Of Paraphilia Studies #4 zine came out yesterday with Tisbor, Torakka, etc...   Also issue #2 of solo zine of Torakka, all drawings & paintings, sex, violence, corpses, cannibalism, etc.  The Dissection Archives #2 show nice improvement from #1!



Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: cr on April 06, 2022, 09:43:05 AM
I would suggest to expand topic to include: 'PE SUBJECT MATTER in ART'. And in this not only looking at the visuals per see, but also the ideas behind the works. I think this added approach opens up another way of seeing and understanding art, but also PE culture.

Sure, this seems like a good idea, as it expands the topic a bit more and therefore I am looking forward for more variety in suggestions and discussion. Nonetheless, I am personally at first interested in paintings and painters, but of course also in everything else, which has a "PE Subject Matter". It absolutely makes sense to have one bigger topic about these themes in art.
I will try to modify my first post.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Balor/SS1535 on April 06, 2022, 05:47:17 PM
Institute Of Paraphilia Studies #4 zine came out yesterday with Tisbor, Torakka, etc...   Also issue #2 of solo zine of Torakka, all drawings & paintings, sex, violence, corpses, cannibalism, etc.  The Dissection Archives #2 show nice improvement from #1!



Are there any texts in the new IOPS Journal, or just artwork?


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: online prowler on April 06, 2022, 07:47:08 PM
Institute Of Paraphilia Studies #4 zine came out yesterday with Tisbor, Torakka, etc...   Also issue #2 of solo zine of Torakka, all drawings & paintings, sex, violence, corpses, cannibalism, etc.  The Dissection Archives #2 show nice improvement from #1!



Thanks for the update.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Fields on April 07, 2022, 10:12:40 AM
Institute Of Paraphilia Studies #4 zine came out yesterday with Tisbor, Torakka, etc...   Also issue #2 of solo zine of Torakka, all drawings & paintings, sex, violence, corpses, cannibalism, etc.  The Dissection Archives #2 show nice improvement from #1!

Good news, I thought the first issue of Dissection Archives was good fun so will definitely be picking up the second one too. As for other artists, Naoki Sasayama was the first one to come to mind, too. What a great style he has. Good thread.

https://www.instagram.com/negadeath13


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: cr on April 07, 2022, 12:17:29 PM
GEA. Check out her book "Penetralia" on Timeless Edition!

If I remember right, she has topic on her own, but Aleksandra Waliszewska definitely should be mentioned here.

And NAROK book by Stephen Bessac.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: cr on April 07, 2022, 12:23:14 PM
As for other artists, Naoki Sasayama was the first one to come to mind, too. What a great style he has. Good thread.
https://www.instagram.com/negadeath13

Thank you! Will look into his work.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: Aldous on April 07, 2022, 12:59:15 PM
While browsing the Timeless Editions website, I came across Daisuke Ichiba. I have a quite curious book by him entitled "Fotomanko", published by Dernier Cri composed both by illustrations and photographs. Great edition in textured paper, printed in red and black. Surrealistic sexual gore with several encripted symbolist elements. This is one of those artist whose images demand time to fully appreciate.

Also on the japanese graphic novel side of things, I would have to mention the classic Suehiro Maruo and Shintaro Kago (body horror and biotechnological crash - I would recommend Industrial Revolution and World War, although I'm not fully aware of all of his work)


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: FreakAnimalFinland on April 09, 2022, 09:04:37 AM
Institute Of Paraphilia Studies #4 zine came out yesterday with Tisbor, Torakka, etc...   Also issue #2 of solo zine of Torakka, all drawings & paintings, sex, violence, corpses, cannibalism, etc.  The Dissection Archives #2 show nice improvement from #1!
Are there any texts in the new IOPS Journal, or just artwork?

Both these are all artwork only.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: Suspicious Activity on April 13, 2022, 04:38:47 AM
Painters Justin Mortimer and Phil Hale come to mind. Mortimer I've just recently became a fan of, Hale I've followed for at least a decade now. Both paint somewhat similar subject matters but have their own techniques and palette choices. I believe the two share/shared a studio at one point. Recent Mortimer is vibrant and gaudy. Hale loves his olive green and drab. Both know what the hell they're doing.

Justin Mortimer: http://justinmortimer.co.uk/2020-21.html (http://justinmortimer.co.uk/2020-21.html)
Phil Hale: https://jonathanlevineprojects.com/artists/phil-hale/ (https://jonathanlevineprojects.com/artists/phil-hale/)

Personally, I think these paintings feel more industrial noise to me than PE. There's a sense of mystery with each piece that makes you wonder what the fuck is going on and the figures are often cut up or the anatomy is skewed just enough for it to be uneasy to look at. The subtly is what sells it for me. Clearly they're both skilled as traditional painters but add a heavy abstract element as well.
Digging further, Hale is lesser known for his collage work which I think is just as good as his paintings:

https://cafans.b-cdn.net/images/Category_1860/subcat_133823/Device2.jpg
 (https://cafans.b-cdn.net/images/Category_1860/subcat_133823/Device2.jpg)
(Not too much found online, sadly)
Piecing together different photos of metal objects to create something foreign yet recognizable. Items taped together in a manic manner which lends to the post apocalyptic objects he's creating.If you can track down the "Mockingbird/Relaxeder" books by him, I strongly suggest picking them up.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: online prowler on April 24, 2022, 08:16:37 PM
I highly recommend American artist Thomas Stetson. He has been gathering a following in the underground for numerous years now. Self-published several art zines and not long ago Manuel of Narcolepsia I belieive issued an art book w him. Thomas is on facebook and ig. Check him out.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: cr on April 26, 2022, 03:11:49 PM
I highly recommend American artist Thomas Stetson. He has been gathering a following in the underground for numerous years now. Self-published several art zines and not long ago Manuel of Narcolepsia I belieive issued an art book w him. Thomas is on facebook and ig. Check him out.

Thanks for mentioning him, I also like his work a lot.

Btw, I have a NM spare copy of 'Defects', the one Black Blood Press/Narcolepsia put out, if someone's interested.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: cr on April 26, 2022, 03:26:48 PM
Also recommended...the already mentioned NICOLA VINCIGUERRA with “LUXUS” book, also on Black Blood Press, in conspiracy with Turgid Forlag and Peer Pressure.
Includes a list of suggested listenings to get in the right mood.
"Joe Roemer had 100, I will have 66"
And introduction by Mark Solotroff.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: online prowler on May 08, 2022, 12:14:34 AM
NICOLA VINCIGUERRA = living legend. Total support.

The psycho sexual art of Japanese master artist Toshio Saeki. Ero guro meets neon pop culture.

Japanese master artist Namio Harukawa. Passed away April 2020. Active since the early 1960s. Predominately developing an ouvre in media drawing and theme SM femdom: Buxum amazones versus domesticated midgets. When I look at him I can see common treads to Robert Crumb, Balthus to for instance surrealist Fernando Botero's pencil drawings of women.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: AdamLehrerImageMaker on May 14, 2022, 06:05:47 PM
Painters Justin Mortimer and Phil Hale come to mind. Mortimer I've just recently became a fan of, Hale I've followed for at least a decade now. Both paint somewhat similar subject matters but have their own techniques and palette choices. I believe the two share/shared a studio at one point. Recent Mortimer is vibrant and gaudy. Hale loves his olive green and drab. Both know what the hell they're doing.

Justin Mortimer: http://justinmortimer.co.uk/2020-21.html (http://justinmortimer.co.uk/2020-21.html)
Phil Hale: https://jonathanlevineprojects.com/artists/phil-hale/ (https://jonathanlevineprojects.com/artists/phil-hale/)

Personally, I think these paintings feel more industrial noise to me than PE. There's a sense of mystery with each piece that makes you wonder what the fuck is going on and the figures are often cut up or the anatomy is skewed just enough for it to be uneasy to look at. The subtly is what sells it for me. Clearly they're both skilled as traditional painters but add a heavy abstract element as well.
Digging further, Hale is lesser known for his collage work which I think is just as good as his paintings:

https://cafans.b-cdn.net/images/Category_1860/subcat_133823/Device2.jpg
 (https://cafans.b-cdn.net/images/Category_1860/subcat_133823/Device2.jpg)
(Not too much found online, sadly)
Piecing together different photos of metal objects to create something foreign yet recognizable. Items taped together in a manic manner which lends to the post apocalyptic objects he's creating.If you can track down the "Mockingbird/Relaxeder" books by him, I strongly suggest picking them up.

I typically disdain the kind of hyper-vivid hyper-realist painting style of someone like Mortimer, but his technique and color palette is truly astonishing and undeniably potent. I was intro'd to his work by a friend a few years ago and have been excited to see his work ever since.


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters / PE subject matter in art in general
Post by: Sadomaniac on May 30, 2022, 01:44:31 AM
Igor Ruz - https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Igor+Ruz%22

Also very much enjoyed Torakka's recent zine, unique stuff (and did not let our organs touch!).


Title: Re: PE paintings and painters
Post by: Atrophist on July 31, 2022, 12:04:36 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/MThGc0rt/image-2022-04-02-195348.png)

https://caritahannikainen.wordpress.com/2022/07/30/toinen-naytos/